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Old 18-05-2008, 14:20   #1
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Creationism in US schools.

A growing number of schools in the southern states of America are now teaching "creationism" as fact, how can a democracy allow their young children's minds to be polluted with such fundamentalist religious dogma?.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_school.htm

This is another one the fundamentalists like, the dinosaurs coexisting with mankind 6000 years ago, I fail to understand how anyone can convince themselves, in the wake of such overwhelming evidence, how this can be true.

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Re: Creationism in US schools.

religion never lets a small thing like the facts ,get in the way of its twisted view of how the universe works
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Re: Creationism in US schools.

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A growing number of schools in the southern states of America are now teaching "creationism" as fact, how can a democracy allow their young children's minds to be polluted with such fundamentalist religious dogma?.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_school.htm
There's a clue in your question. Democracy. As in, the people choose. Whether you like it or not.

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This is another one the fundamentalists like, the dinosaurs coexisting with mankind 6000 years ago, I fail to understand how anyone can convince themselves, in the wake of such overwhelming evidence, how this can be true.

http://christiananswers.net/catalog/bk-dm.html
Perhaps you can give us your expert summary of the 'overwhelming' evidence. Or are you making a statement of your faith in the people who have told you it's 'overwhelming'?
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Perhaps you can give us your expert summary of the 'overwhelming' evidence. Or are you making a statement of your faith in the people who have told you it's 'overwhelming'?
Where's the evidence for creationism? Peer reviewed scientific journals would be nice
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Re: Creationism in US schools.

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Where's the evidence for creationism? Peer reviewed scientific journals would be nice
Don't change the subject.
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Don't change the subject.
Ah. A resounding 'There is none' then.
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Re: Creationism in US schools.

Religion - all boils down to not having the balls to face death and hiding behind some half-baked cobblers along the lines of there being an afterlife and you go there if you pretend to be virtuous
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Re: Creationism in US schools.

I see the forum is a hotbed of well-researched, eloquently-put viewpoints this afternoon.
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Re: Creationism in US schools.

The problem with this is that creationism isn’t a theory, it’s an assertion, to wit: The entire universe was created in six days, the days are 24-hour days, the layout for the creation and for the early history of the planet and humanity is in the first chapter of Genesis and it is exactly right. Everything has to be made to conform to these assertions, whilst in evolutionary theory, propositions are subject to rigorous peer-reviewed scientific process.

btw, let's not confuse Christianity with Creationism, please, which to my mind is a teleological quirk substantially unrelated to the grace one can achieve through Jesus Christ.
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Re: Creationism in US schools.

Biblical Creationism, Evolution... bah!

Everyone knows that the universe was created by the Flying Spaghetti Monster, and I challenge people to prove otherwise.


It's also high time that schools stopped teaching "gravity" in Physics lessons, & started teaching Intelligent Falling instead.
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Re: Creationism in US schools.

I refer readers to a previous post of mine...

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Perhaps you can give us your expert summary of the 'overwhelming' evidence. Or are you making a statement of your faith in the people who have told you it's 'overwhelming'?
Chris I honestly thought this drivel was only taken seriously in some parts of the US, where would you like me to start as regarding the efficacy of evolution over creationism? 150 years of reputable research, the fact the Earth is 4.5 billion years old, not 6000-10000 years as the creationists would have us believe. The truly disturbing thought is how many American citizens believe this dogma, note the following link of a survey carried out in the US recently, it makes for pretty depressing reading.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_publi.htm
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Re: Creationism in US schools.

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Chris I honestly thought this drivel was only taken seriously in some parts of the US, where would you like me to start as regarding the efficacy of evolution over creationism? 150 years of reputable research, the fact the Earth is 6.5 billion years old, not 6000-10000 years as the creationists would have us believe. The truly disturbing thought is how many American citizens believe this dogma, note the following link of a survey carried out in the US recently, it makes for pretty depressing reading.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_publi.htm
It's actually 4.5 billion years old. I agree, it's really disturbing that there are schools teaching otherwise.
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Re: Creationism in US schools.

Well Creationism/Intelligent Design is part of the RE syllabus here already but only as a 'some people believe that.........'sort of way.

Incidentally I did wonder who was going to be the next brave soul to start up another ID/Creationism thread.

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Re: Creationism in US schools.

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Well Creationism/Intelligent Design is part of the RE syllabus here already but only as a 'some people believe that.........'sort of way.
I'm sure most people have got no problem with it being taught like that.
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