Do you believe ghosts exist?

[wwe]

Question for you all do you belive ghosts exist?

[Delta Whiskey]

No. The human mind is very capable of inventing imaginary things and putting extraordinary connotations onto very ordinary occurrences.

[Noggo]

There have always been ghosts in the machine. Random segments of code, that have grouped together to form unexpected protocols. Unanticipated, these free radicals engender questions of free will, creativity, and even the nature of what we might call the soul. Why is it that when some robots are left in darkness, they will seek out the light? Why is it that when robots are stored in an empty space, they will group together, rather than stand alone? How do we explain this behavior? Random segments of code? Or is it something more? When does a perceptual schematic become consciousness? When does a difference engine become the search for truth? When does a personality simulation become the bitter mote... of a soul?

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Yes I do. I was over at a mates house a few years ago, I thought I saw someone walking down the garden path, then across the back of the house to the back door. I went over to the back door, opened it and there was nobody there. It wasn't until I say something, I found out it's happened before on a many occasions. Without mentioning what the person looked like, she got described to a tee. Plus in the same house in the 2nd receiption room the curtain has been moved like someone has parted it to walk through. I'm not talking a little movement either, it moved a good foot and an half just like you or I would do to move it out of the way to walk through. The curtains are in the position of an old doorway which has been blocked up for 50 years or so. Tell ya some scary sh*t goes on in that house.

[Jefferson T]

I seem to remember answering this before, mmnnm.

Anyway no I don't, but I do believe people see 'apparitions' and odd things I just don't think they are ghosts.

[Enuff]

I hope they exist, cos i'm dead set on coming back and scaring the **** out of Harry Hill, the cast of Corry and that Alan (irritating) Carr from the Friday Night Project!

And many, many more.

[Russ B]

Originally Posted by wwe

Question for you all do you belive ghosts exist?

I believe evil spirts exist but do I believe people who have died are able to 'come back'? Not in a millions years.

[Nidge]

I believe in ghosts the reason being I've seen one. Many years ago when I was on the taxis in Sutton In Ashfield I was working late one Boxing day night, I was given a job to take some customers from Sutton in Ashfield to Ravenshead, I dropped them off and set back on my way to Sutton in Ashfield.

I was travelling down Blidworth Road when I noticed this woman stood at the side of the road near a bus stop, this bus stop was at the end of a Hospital drive, the hospital was called Newstead Hospital, it's used to be a psychiatric hospital.

When I approached the bus stop the woman walked to the side of the road and put her hand out, now this was 4am in the morning, I thought she was a nurse at the hospital, I pulled in and she got in the back of the car, "she said I want to go to Sutton in Ashfield please". I set off to wards Sutton in Ashfield, on the way there is a set of traffic lights outside Coxmoor Golf club which were on green, I went through the lights, when I got through the lights I looked in my rear view mirror to find the woman had gone, when I realised she'd gone the car went freezing cold. I didn't know what to do I just put my foot down and raced back to Sutton in Ashfield, I went back into the cab office and the lad on the desk said Jesus Nidge you look like you've seen a ghost, I said Noddy I have seen a ghost I've just had one in the back of my car, I told him what happened and his face was motionless.

A reporter from one of the local papers wanted to run a story on what happened, I told them the whole story for them to print it. When the paper came out I got phone calls from all over the country from people who'd experienced the same thing in the same area. O

I call I got was from a lorry driver from down south, he'd been driving along the A60 when he noticed a woman stood at the side of the road, he stopped and asked her if everything was OK as it was the middle of the night? She said can you take me home please my car has broken down? He said yes no problem where do you live? She said I'll show you. Off he went with the woman in his lorry, she directed him to where she lived, when he pulled up outside the house she said can you go and tell my dad that I've broken down please? He said of course, he went to the house and knocked on the door, a man answered the door and the lorry driver said sorry to bother you but I've got your daughter in the cab her car has broken down on the A60 she's a bit upset, the girls father stood there motionless and said my daughter has been dead 10 years, the lorry driver said I've got her in my cab, he described her to the man at the door, he said yes that's my daughter, they went to the lorry and opened the door to find there was no one in the cab.

Another call I got was from a bus driver, he was working late one rainy night, he was on the last run from Nottingham to Mansfield along the A60, he pulled up at a stop because a woman was stood there, the driver told her to sit down and pay him when they got to Mansfield, the woman went upstairs. The driver pulled into Mansfield bus Station the driver was filling in his sheet when he thought about the woman upstairs, he went upstairs to find no one there only a puddle of water where this woman was sat, there was on one on the last bus only the driver and this woman. He didn't say anything to anyone at the bus depot until one of the other drivers slipped something out about the same thing that had happened to him a few months earlier.

You see that's why I believe in ghosts.

[bopdude]

Originally Posted by Jefferson T

I seem to remember answering this before, mmnnm.

Anyway no I don't, but I do believe people see 'apparitions' and odd things I just don't think they are ghosts.

I seem to remember a thread about this, ages ago


EDIT: yep here it is, from 2004

Originally Posted by Russ B

I believe evil spirts exist but do I believe people who have died are able to 'come back'? Not in a millions years.

What would happen after the million years was up, would there be a flood of ghosties world wide, that might get peoples spirits up

[WHISTLED]

but do I believe people who have died are able to 'come back'? Not in a millions years

There goes the Christian faith then.....

[Russ B]

Originally Posted by bopdude

I seem to remember a thread about this, ages ago


EDIT: yep here it is, from 2004




What would happen after the million years was up, would there be a flood of ghosties world wide, that might get peoples spirits up

We'll meet up in a million years and discuss it

[KaySquirrel]

Originally Posted by Jefferson T

Anyway no I don't, but I do believe people see 'apparitions' and odd things I just don't think they are ghosts.

Just to clarify because I'm curious (nosy): You're using ghosts to mean spirits of people in this case? So you believe that things are out there, but they're not 'human' spirits? If I'm understanding you right, that's a viewpoint I've not seen before.. On the plus side, it would mean that anything odd out there wouldn't be the spirit of someone's relative, which is good because they should have something 'better' do to after death than just wander around on earth.

On the bad side, it would mean that anything odd seen isn't (wasn't) human at some point.. and I think that's a little scarier!

I do believe in ghosts/spirits/apparitions/unseelies/whatever you want to call them, but I don't go as far as to guess what they are (or were). It makes no difference anyway as I've never seen anything weird. Odd sounds/feelings, sure. But seeing somethere there that shouldn't be there? Nope. Sometimes it feels like the best way to never get startled by things that go bump in the night is to believe in them.

Nidge those stories are spooky. Did you believe in ghosts before the first story happened to you?

[frogstamper]

Absolutely not, as much as I don't believe in fairies or ghouls and goblins or religion.

[what?]

i used to really beleive in ghost.
though i seen a couple a few years back, and got a few cold shivers when in places that are supposedly haunted. its a strange one, because i speak to people i trust with my life who tell me stories about ghost they've seen and heard that would prove ghosts to be true, but i still cant bring myself to believe it anymore.
i cant help but think its their mind playing tricks on them, or possibly someone else playing a trick on them.
think that rediculous show "most haunted" helped to rid me of the belief, and that derek acorah, what a bloody idiot!!

[Jefferson T]

I don't doubt people see things, but I think of them as more of a temporal thing, seeing the past, present or future intersecting with now if you like.

Anyway that's just the way I personally see it.

Originally Posted by KaySquirrel

Just to clarify because I'm curious (nosy): You're using ghosts to mean spirits of people in this case? So you believe that things are out there, but they're not 'human' spirits? If I'm understanding you right, that's a viewpoint I've not seen before.. On the plus side, it would mean that anything odd out there wouldn't be the spirit of someone's relative, which is good because they should have something 'better' do to after death than just wander around on earth.

On the bad side, it would mean that anything odd seen isn't (wasn't) human at some point.. and I think that's a little scarier!

I do believe in ghosts/spirits/apparitions/unseelies/whatever you want to call them, but I don't go as far as to guess what they are (or were). It makes no difference anyway as I've never seen anything weird. Odd sounds/feelings, sure. But seeing somethere there that shouldn't be there? Nope. Sometimes it feels like the best way to never get startled by things that go bump in the night is to believe in them.

Nidge those stories are spooky. Did you believe in ghosts before the first story happened to you?

[Graham M]

Originally Posted by WHISTLED

There goes the Christian faith then.....

Why do you say that?