pulling a pint ?

[tweetypie/8]

being irish and very fond of a pint of guinness i find that a lot of the pubs in england cant seem to pull a decent pint of the black stuff is this guinnesses fault for not showing staff how its done ?.some of the stuff ive been served up is totally undrinkable and if it was served in the same way over here it would be god help the barman.

[kryogenik]

Guinness drinker myself so do appreciate the right protocol!

Not experienced many wrong pulls, but do think it's possible untrained bar staff might just pull a pint of Guinness without the appropriate pause. Wouldn't know where to lay the blame though - would it be down to the Guinness reps? Not sure.

[Rob M]

There are three problems here:

1. Geography: Guiness doesn't travel well. The further you move it the worse it gets.

2. Popularity: Guinness needs to be pulled in order for it to taste its best. The first 4-5 pints pulled from a pump are always slightly ropey. If enough people in a bar are drinking it those first 4-5 are drunk quickly, if you're the only person drinking you're in for a rough night.

3. Care: You can't just slop out a pint of Guiness. It takes time, care, attention to detail, and an understanding of the stages involved, in order to pour the best pint. People pouring Guiness in British pubs are generally in too much of a rush, and don't really know *why* they should take their time. Any landlord worth their salt should be able to pour a decent Guiness, and they should be training their staff in this as well.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Raistlin

There are three problems here:
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4. Guinness = undrinkable

[polmki]

Widget.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by tweetypie/8

being irish and very fond of a pint of guinness i find that a lot of the pubs in england cant seem to pull a decent pint of the black stuff is this guinnesses fault for not showing staff how its done ?.some of the stuff ive been served up is totally undrinkable and if it was served in the same way over here it would be god help the barman.

when you say England do you mean ,northern proper England or sothern flat pop England, if you had a bad pint up north i hang my head in shame ,but if it was in down in shandy vile what did you expect, there to tight to put a head on beer.

[Bender]

drinking establishments are all supplied with instructions on how to pour a pint of guiness. it's just crappy bartenders that can't do it right.

[Rob]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

when you say England do you mean ,northern proper England or sothern flat pop England, if you had a bad pint up north i hang my head in shame ,but if it was in down in shandy vile what did you expect, there to tight to put a head on beer.

Not too tight, what we want is the liquid that's drinkable, not the empty froth that is an excuse for the publican to make extra money.

But Guinness is an acquired art. Too often the drinker is in a rush as well as the bartender. Both can ruin it. But despite modern methods of transport, there is no doubt that it's best served in it's own country. A busy UK based Irish pub will run a second best.

Originally Posted by danielf

4. Guinness = undrinkable

Imo thats 1,2 and 3.

[tweetypie/8]

Originally Posted by danielf

4. Guinness = undrinkable

that may be your opinion cant agree.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

when you say England do you mean ,northern proper England or sothern flat pop England, if you had a bad pint up north i hang my head in shame ,but if it was in down in shandy vile what did you expect, there to tight to put a head on beer.

down south papa.

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Originally Posted by Rob

Not too tight, what we want is the liquid that's drinkable, not the empty froth that is an excuse for the publican to make extra money.

But Guinness is an acquired art. Too often the drinker is in a rush as well as the bartender. Both can ruin it. But despite modern methods of transport, there is no doubt that it's best served in it's own country. A busy UK based Irish pub will run a second best.

in the local where i have my tipple the majority of the crowd are guinness drinkers and the bar staff are a treat to watch,no hurried pints here and they will even do a shamrock for you out of the froth,quare stuff.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by tweetypie/8

that may be your opinion cant agree.

Yeah, each to their own. It's just not for me. I'll stick to gassy lager.

[tweetypie/8]

Originally Posted by Bender

drinking establishments are all supplied with instructions on how to pour a pint of guiness. it's just crappy bartenders that can't do it right.

i think your right bender.

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Originally Posted by kryogenik

Guinness drinker myself so do appreciate the right protocol!

Not experienced many wrong pulls, but do think it's possible untrained bar staff might just pull a pint of Guinness without the appropriate pause. Wouldn't know where to lay the blame though - would it be down to the Guinness reps? Not sure.

could well be.

[Rob]

Originally Posted by danielf

Yeah, each to their own. It's just not for me. I'll stick to gassy lager.

I'd rather buy something with body and alcohol than gas

[Nidge]

A proper pint of guiness is a pint with a shamrock in the froth.

[Rob M]

No it isn't. A 'proper' pint of Guiness is poured well and not mucked about with.