Diesel & Petrol Prices

[Hom3r]

What the heck is going on with the cost of fuel?

In the space of two weeks the average cost of diesel has jumped by 5p a litre.

The average cost of a litre near me is £1.05p,

This is getting way beyond a poxy joke.

6-7 years ago Hauliers blocked terminals for a week or so, and the cost was way lower than today. (Why not now? has some secret deal been struck?)

Thank god I bought a diesel in May.

[Callumpy]

its cheap, think of how much it cost to get the petrol and import it to a tank!

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Callumpy

its cheap, think of how much it cost to get the petrol and import it to a tank!

You can tell you dont pay for it each day.

So answer me this. How do other countrys have it cheaper than this one. ?

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Callumpy

its cheap, think of how much it cost to get the petrol and import it to a tank!

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

His was the sort of stupid answer i expect from someone who does not have to pay for it. Unlike us Rammy

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Originally Posted by Hom3r

Thank god I bought a diesel in May.

That's what i will be buying next and run it on cooking oil and the Government can go sod off for the tax and vat

[Shadow Demon UK]

A litre of water generally costs more than £1 and thats a hell of a lot easier to source than petrol...

[bw41101]

Originally Posted by Sirius

So answer me this. How do other countries have it cheaper than this one. ?

Because their governments aren't full of greedy, grubby, slimy, blood squeezing parasites, aiming to legally steal as much revenue from the hard and (not so) hard working public (as they possibly can), in the form of tax.

Petrol and diesel cost next to nothing to produce (average less than 5p a litre), the actual price is bumped up in revenues, that's why the oil companies are stinking rich and the government has a big fat laugh at the public's expense.

It's a double edged sword. When the price of oil goes up ($ per barrel) the price of fuel immediately goes up to compensate, the winner in this game is always the oil company and the government - the loser is the public.

I can remember when diesel was once cheaper than petrol - why? because it was mostly used for the (not so trendy) end of the motoring market. Since then diesel cars have become very fashionable and (now) because of it's better performance and mileage (when compared to petrol) the price has gone up accordingly - annoying isn't it?

To my mind the only way to tackle this would be for nobody to buy fuel for a week or more. This would seriously affect profits all round. Nice thought, but unfortunately (dare I say this) many of the British public haven't got the guts to see it through. I mean - you only have to whisper "shortages" to see every man, woman and his dog rushing for the pumps. Baa baa black sheep have you any wool?

So (you see) we really are our own worst enemy, sigh.....!

Si thee

[brundles]

Originally Posted by bw41101

To my mind the only way to tackle this would be for nobody to buy fuel for a week or more. This would seriously affect profits all round. Nice thought, but unfortunately (dare I say this) many of the British public haven't got the guts to see it through. I mean - you only have to whisper "shortages" to see every man, woman and his dog rushing for the pumps.

So (you see) we really are our own worst enemy, sigh.....!

Si thee

The problem with that approach is that the government and petrol companies know you will still need petrol (probably twice as much) the week after.

A slightly better variant of this I saw was to boycott two petrol suppliers completely (I can't remeber which ones it was unfortunately!). That way you still get your petrol/diesel but somebody else does lose out and might actually take an interest beyond cranking the price up on the board every day.

[bw41101]

Originally Posted by brundles

boycott two petrol suppliers completely (I can't remember which ones it was unfortunately!).

If I remember rightly it was: Shell and PB. Though (I understand) supermarkets were supposed to be the fuel backups to support such a campaign.

Si thee

[Help!!!]

Originally Posted by Callumpy

its cheap, think of how much it cost to get the petrol and import it to a tank!

Can you pay my petrol costs please? Ill send you a paypal request for the yearly bill, kthxbye.

But seriously, Its getting way to expensive, 1.13p some garages are charging for diesel . utter joke, I was watching top gear tonight and they where on about a H2O car, now thats what Im talking about.

We need to organize a strike, that would make the garages change.

[WHISTLED]

its cheap, think of how much it cost to get the petrol and import it to a tank!

More wise words from the child prodigy!

But seriously, Its getting way to expensive, 1.13p some garages are charging for diesel . utter joke, I was watching top gear tonight and they where on about a H2O car, now thats what Im talking about

It was a hydrogen powered car, H20 is just the bi-product, and although its proably the future they will be out of almost everyones reach for decades yet. The fuel cells are very very very expensive

Diesel is a waste product that is created when crude oil is refined, it was said earlier in another post that years ago diesel was classed as unfashionable that's why it was so cheap, sadly now it's not the case.

Any buisness that is VAT registered can claim the VAT back that's paid on fuel, don't feel sorry for the hauliers, farmers, bus companies and all the companies who are VAT resgistered because they are getting cheap fuel via VAT rebates every 3 months. Bus companies and all the other transport companies get a fuel duty rebate every 3 months.

I was talking once to an operations manager at Stagecoach in Mansfield and he told me how much fuel duty they get back each quarter, his depot alone got £250,000 every quarter that's not taking into account the subsidies they get from the government each year, don't feel sorrry for these operators because they are stinking in money.

There are many by-products that are created from refining oil, there's butuman, plastics, chemicals plus many many more products that create more profit for the oil companies than petrol and diesel, there is no waste so why the high fuel prices?

What gets me is when the price of a barrel crude oil goes up the petrol stations put it up straight away, bearing in mind the crude has to be pumped to the surface then shipped halfway round the world then placed on the brent oil markets for sale, it then has to be shipped to the refinery to be made into fuel then transported to the garage for general sale, they must be fast at doing this because when they announce a rise in price for a barrel of crude whala an extra 3p goes on at the pumps, now that's some speed. When the price of a barrel comes down it takes 2 weeks before we see any price difference.

Sorry for the rant folks but I feel better now I've got that off my chest.

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Originally Posted by Hom3r

6-7 years ago Hauliers blocked terminals for a week or so, and the cost was way lower than today. (Why not now? has some secret deal been struck?)

The hauliers won't blockade anymore due to them being able to claim their fuel duty back from the government, this was reached after that last blockade when the country was on it's knees, Tony Blair and Gordon Brown took this action to stop anymore demo's. Hauliers are rolling in money now, when you take the duty off the price of a gallon of diesel you'll be looking at paying about 40 odd pence per litre.

[Mr_love_monkey]

Originally Posted by Callumpy

its cheap, think of how much it cost to get the petrol and import it to a tank!

can tell you don't drive

[Graham M]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

6-7 years ago Hauliers blocked terminals for a week or so, and the cost was way lower than today. (Why not now? has some secret deal been struck?)

That I remember, it was much more than a week!

[lostandconfused]

The highest petrol prices since the dinosaurs, co-incides with the possibility of a new job with a 200 mile round trip commute. Lovely.

Im thinking about getting a diesel and then becoming bessie friends with my local farmer that has a nice stockpile of the red stuff.

Even with my relativly short drive to work, and hardly useing the car outside of work my fuel bill is more than gas, electric TV phone BB and mobile bills combined. Now thats just silly