21-01-2007, 18:26
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Foreign TV
Russ B closed a thread, when somebody mentioned watching Foreign TV.
It appears that there are several p2p programs and some other software (is that p2p too?) to watch foreign tv.
What is illegal about it?
Can I watch abc/cbs/nbc news legaly? why not
Can I watch ESPN legally?
How can Skype can claim that is the first to bring p2p tv?
How do they stream it? A camera in front of the TV or hijacking the digital stream?
Please do not put any illegal (why?) links that will make the mods lock this thread...
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21-01-2007, 19:28
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Double-Choc
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Re: Foreign TV
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Originally Posted by Lobster Ring
Russ B closed a thread, when somebody mentioned watching Foreign TV.
It appears that there are several p2p programs and some other software (is that p2p too?) to watch foreign tv.
What is illegal about it?
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I need to start counting the number of times I refer to the Copyright, Designs And Patents Act 1988 on this forum 
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Can I watch abc/cbs/nbc news legaly? why not
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Assuming they haven't given their permission, no. Add one to the count.
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Can I watch ESPN legally?
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Assuming they haven't given their permission, no. Add another one to the count.
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How can Skype can claim that is the first to bring p2p tv?
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Where have Skype claimed this? Source?
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How do they stream it? A camera in front of the TV or hijacking the digital stream??
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Probably hire lots of really good artists, give them lots of coloured pencils, sit them in front of the telly and get them to draw very very fast what appears on the screen 
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22-01-2007, 08:26
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Re: Foreign TV
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I need to start counting the number of times I refer to the Copyright, Designs And Patents Act 1988 on this forum
Assuming they haven't given their permission, no. Add one to the count.
Assuming they haven't given their permission, no. Add another one to the count. |
What are talking about?
ABC/CBS/NBC are free channels in the US....
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Where have Skype claimed this? Source?
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6266391.stm
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Probably hire lots of really good artists, give them lots of coloured pencils, sit them in front of the telly and get them to draw very very fast what appears on the screen |
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22-01-2007, 08:29
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Re: Foreign TV
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The BBCs free here but you're not supose to watch BBC1/2 outside the UK. 
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22-01-2007, 08:38
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Re: Foreign TV
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The BBCs free here but you're not supose to watch BBC1/2 outside the UK. |
Why not? BBC News 24 is available worldwide. 
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22-01-2007, 09:06
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Re: Foreign TV
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The BBCs free here but you're not supose to watch BBC1/2 outside the UK. |
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Why not? BBC News 24 is available worldwide. |
Huh!? I don't see how that's related.
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22-01-2007, 09:13
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Re: Foreign TV
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Why not? BBC News 24 is available worldwide. |
BBC News 24 is sold to other networks for broadcasting
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22-01-2007, 10:40
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Re: Foreign TV
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Why not? BBC News 24 is available worldwide. |
Because the licence for the programs is only for the UK. Sometimes they're only for England or Scotland (for example) - the other nation gets a different program . Either you really don't understand or you're trying to provoke a reastion from the members in this thread.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Basically it's so the program production company can make as much money as possible. If they let the BBC show their program all over Europe they couldn't sell it to all the other countries could they!
The same with DVD's Games etc.
Why do you think you don't get BBC Prime or BBC America here?
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Why not? BBC News 24 is available worldwide. |
....and I'm not talking about BBC News here am I?
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22-01-2007, 19:01
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Re: Foreign TV
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What are talking about?
ABC/CBS/NBC are free channels in the US.... |
I seem to recall that there are some bits of the planet that aren't in the US. And anyway, these channels won't be 'free' as such - the content producers will have signed contracts with certain broadcasters allowing them to broadcast the channels for free - they'll retain the rights to charge in every other market and on every other medium.
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So it's not Skype that's doing this but some of the people who started Skype.
Going from that article it looks like it'll be like youtube only with fewer, original content producers, and presumably nothing worth watching except old stuff that doesn't attract any revenue any more. Can't see it being live streaming - who has the bandwidth for that, even these days?
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Couldn't have put it better myself
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22-01-2007, 19:09
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Re: Foreign TV
from what i've watched of foreign tv on the internet, most of it is even worse than our selection in the UK anyway?! :P
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22-01-2007, 20:12
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Re: Foreign TV
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from what i've watched of foreign tv on the internet, most of it is even worse than our selection in the UK anyway?! :P
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Not if you enjoy certain live sporting events that are not shown here
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23-01-2007, 07:19
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Re: Foreign TV
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Not if you enjoy certain live sporting events that are not shown here
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Exactly. And if you are from Hong Kong living here, you will want to watch some "home" channels...
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23-01-2007, 08:57
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Re: Foreign TV
hmm, well not being that big a sports fan I am quite happy with the selection of sporting events available to view in the uk.
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23-01-2007, 10:33
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Re: Foreign TV
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Not if you enjoy certain live sporting events that are not shown here
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Or if you want to watch sporting events that are one Sky. Example: Champion's league and premiership matches that are broadcast on Sky in the UK are broadcast on terrestrial channels in some other countries. If you were to watch them on the internet Sky would not be too happy.
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23-01-2007, 11:53
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Re: Foreign TV
If you are seriously interested in foreign TV then I suggest you get a FTA satellite receiver and a dish with a motor. Assuming you have a good view of the sky then you'll probably be able to receive most FTA channels eminating from satellites between 55E and 30W - some 2000+ TV channels and 2000+ radio channels. Because they are Free-To-Air, this is all totally legal.
Check out the satellite and channel list here:
http://en.kingofsat.net/satellites.php?s=pos
Note that the table is arranged awkwardly. Look for satellites between 2E and 55E and then between 0.8W and 30W. 0 degrees East is the same as 0 degrees West.
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