smokefree workplaces and public places

[Mike]

Hi all

Smoking Ban

What is the defination of a public place............does that include outdoors/parks/street etc

Thanks

Mike

[gazzae]

I think it is an Enclosed Public Place.

[Derek]

In Scotland it's any place with a roof and 3 or more sides (Bus Shelters etc.)

It includes things like works vans, even if you are the only person using them. It does excludes Prisons (classed as the prisoners home).

[Hugh]

Originally Posted by Mike

Hi all
Smoking Ban
What is the definition of a public place............does that include outdoors/parks/street etc?
Thanks
Mike

http://www.smokefreeengland.co.uk./faq/faq.html#mean
http://smokefree.profero.com.au/file...nsultation.pdf page 6

Definitions of “enclosed� and “substantially enclosed� premises
2.3 During the passage of the Health Bill through Parliament, we committed to follow the model for defining “enclosed� and “substantially enclosed� premises which is set out in Scotland’s smoke-free regulations.

2.4 Enclosed premises: Premises will be considered to be enclosed if they have a ceiling or roof and, except for doors, windows or passageways, are wholly enclosed, whether on a permanent or temporary basis.

2.5 Substantially enclosed premises: Premises will be considered to be substantially enclosed if they have a ceiling or roof, but there are openings in the walls which are less than half of the total area of walls, including other structures that serve the purpose of walls and constitute the perimeter of the premises. When determining the area of an opening, no account can be taken of openings in which doors, windows or other fittings can be opened or shut.

2.6 For this regulation, “roof � includes any fixed or moveable structure or device which is capable of covering all or part of premises as a roof. This would include retractable canvas awnings.

[bopdude]

I don't know how they will enforce it, obviously there will be a 'lead in' but for arguments sake, a lot of the guys I work with are smokers, we travel about 2,000 miles a week via road, ie mini buses, transits etc etc, now whilst I would love a smoke free journey I can't see the lads being to keen on 'giving up' it's gonna be interesting, who is responsible for people in a minibus ? the driver ?

[Hugh]

It works in planes - why not in other forms of transport?

[hatedbythemail]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

It works in planes - why not in other forms of transport?

they dont have toilets in transits!

[bopdude]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

It works in planes - why not in other forms of transport?

It's the lads we're talking about here, about as much sense as a sack full of ferrets In fact, depending on the squad, I'll give the edge to the sack

[Hugh]

Originally Posted by hatedbythemail

they dont have toilets in transits!

side windows

or back door for numbers 2's

[bopdude]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

side windows

or back door for numbers 2's

Oh no, you didn't, did you

[Hugh]

Not personally - but seen it done on a Rugby tour.

Originally Posted by Mike

Hi all

Smoking Ban

What is the defination of a public place............does that include outdoors/parks/street etc

Thanks

Mike

But you'll still be able to light up in the house of commons.

[Hugh]

Originally Posted by Nidge

But you'll still be able to light up in the house of commons.

Dynamite, Semtex, and C4 hopefully

[lostandconfused]

i was thinking about this the other week, i work part time in a nightclub with a 2800 capacity, now there is enough trouble stopping people bringing drugs in let alone cigarettes.

if you tell somoeone to put out, they are only going to light one up as soon as you have gone, think its going to be a headache for a lot of people when it does come in next year

[Hugh]

Originally Posted by lostandconfused

i was thinking about this the other week, i work part time in a nightclub with a 2800 capacity, now there is enough trouble stopping people bringing drugs in let alone cigarettes.

if you tell somoeone to put out, they are only going to light one up as soon as you have gone, think its going to be a headache for a lot of people when it does come in next year

Smoke detectors with sprinklers - soon sort them out!