Running a car on cooking oil

marky · 13-08-2005, 00:22

Im thinking about it i know my car will its old and pretty bombproof
but
is it legal
have you tried it
and will my car smell like a chippy
its about 30p a litre
what do you think ??????

punky · 13-08-2005, 00:27

Its good, but illegal. Buy buying cooking oil, you aren't give Gordon "Thieving Toerag" Brown his 60 odd pence tax. You can run your diesel (not doesn't work for petrol engines) on cooking oil fine, but if you don't pay order 60p a litre, you're a tax cheat.

You should be OK though. The government normally only checks bigger trucks to make sure they aren't running red (agriculture use only, so cheaper) diesel.

AndrewJ · 13-08-2005, 00:29

You are paying tax your paying VAT on the oil?

So Gordon Geronimo Brown nosed Anus professional can sod off.

marky · 13-08-2005, 00:39

asda online will think i own a chippy

punky · 13-08-2005, 00:44

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Originally Posted by Saxodriver

You are paying tax your paying VAT on the oil?

So Gordon Geronimo Brown nosed Anus professional can sod off.

VAT is variable at 17.5% At 30p/litre. That means he pays 5.25p in VAT. Duty on fuel is fixed at 51p + VAT (including the duty, so you are paying a tax on a tax) on top of that bringing it up to like 60 odd pence a litre. So GB isn't please you are cheating him out of 55p a litre.
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Originally Posted by markymoan

asda online will think i own a chippy

You should try going round chippys and getting their used oil. Works just as well after you filter it, and they'll give it to you free, or next to nothing.

**Rob** · 13-08-2005, 01:05

I've been told, never tried it though, that used oil is better than new stuff. No doubt the fact it has been heated helps it's ability to flow or burn

Someone else suggested that you need a proper conversion kit. Short term your car may run OK, Long term you should dilute with a little diesel especially for starting / stopping engine.

I'm sure there are specialist web sites out there with a load more how to information. But you are supposed to pay duty on the oil if it's for road use and evasion of that duty could eventually get you into trouble.

marky · 13-08-2005, 01:13

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Originally Posted by Rob C

I've been told, never tried it though, that used oil is better than new stuff. No doubt the fact it has been heated helps it's ability to flow or burn

Someone else suggested that you need a proper conversion kit. Short term your car may run OK, Long term you should dilute with a little diesel especially for starting / stopping engine.

I'm sure there are specialist web sites out there with a load more how to information. But you are supposed to pay duty on the oil if it's for road use and evasion of that duty could eventually get you into trouble.

the way i see it is its not red diesel thats naughty
but i'm going to buy it legit
ive heard it called bio fuel but i'm non the wiser
and as for my car in the book it says when road diesel cant be obtained you can mix the diesel in your tank 70/30 with petrol or use kerosene/paraffin 100%

Escapee · 13-08-2005, 08:42

There was an article in the car mechanics magazine last year, it was very informative giving full insructions.

I worked with a guy who used central heating oil mixed with a small amount of engine oil, its initially a lot of hassle to get the viscosity right per batch but worth it. He ran his Pug 205 for about 3 years, covering bout 60K and it had no ill effect. He only stopped because he lives in a rural area and the VED people started dipping tanks to check the farmers for red diesel.

I think the article about chip shop oils suggested the car may need larger fuel pipes, as they are more likely to clogging from the higher viscosity.

andygrif · 13-08-2005, 10:43

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Originally Posted by punky

VAT is variable at 17.5% At 30p/litre. That means he pays 5.25p in VAT

I might be wrong but I don't think there is VAT on food stuffs.

Tuftus · 13-08-2005, 10:53

These may be some useful links for you...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel

http://www.veggiepower.org.uk/page208a.htm

Enjoy!

punky · 13-08-2005, 11:24

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Originally Posted by andygrif

I might be wrong but I don't think there is VAT on food stuffs.

Yeah, you are right there, I didn't realise. They are zero-rated. However, you aren't using it as good, but as a fuel, which makes it a necessary item to a luxury, so I think they'd charge VAT on it.

zoombini · 13-08-2005, 14:24

It's not illegal!

You are perfectly entitled to run your car on this, however you have to declare it to the government and pay the tax, that's all.

The failure to declare your usage & pay taxes is illegal.
Last I heard it was about 30p a litre.

Something that no-one really does much, but just watch out you don't get a copper behiond you as they can make your exhaust stink.

YOu can always try the local chip shops etc for thier old oil & get yourself a good filtration system.

marky · 13-08-2005, 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoombini

It's not illegal!

You are perfectly entitled to run your car on this, however you have to declare it to the government and pay the tax, that's all.

The failure to declare your usage & pay taxes is illegal.
Last I heard it was about 30p a litre.

Something that no-one really does much, but just watch out you don't get a copper behiond you as they can make your exhaust stink.

YOu can always try the local chip shops etc for thier old oil & get yourself a good filtration system.

sound good
marks biofuel refinery