Martial Arts - Page 4

**Russ B** · 04-07-2005, 18:45

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Originally Posted by ikthius

because not all martial arts can say that they are the best and that they will be the right thing for you. it depends on how YOU develop as a martial artist how good your blocks are.

And THAT is the key to it all

ikthius · 04-07-2005, 18:51

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Originally Posted by Russ D

And THAT is the key to it all

yes but the better martial artists know they can get hurt, and may lose, not that they will not get hurt cause they know how to block.

Being the best martial artist will not make you invincable, but give you the respect for the other fighter.

ik

**Russ B** · 04-07-2005, 18:54

I disagree - going in to a fight with the acceptance that your blocks may fail isn't the right frame of mind IMO. You can have extreme confidence going in to a fight and still have respect for your oponent.

**Rob M** · 04-07-2005, 18:57

The state of mind with which you enter a situation (don't like the word fight) is the most important part.

If you enter with "supreme confidence" in your ability to block (or whatever) then you are likely to get a hiding. Only by realising, and accepting, the possibility of defeat will you be able to reach your full potential.

Graham · 04-07-2005, 18:59

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Originally Posted by Raistlin

The state of mind with which you enter a situation (don't like the word fight) is the most important part.

Having the confidence not to *get* into a fight or to walk away from it is an even better way of dealing with the situation

**Rob M** · 04-07-2005, 19:00

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Originally Posted by Graham

Having the confidence not to *get* into a fight or to walk away from it is an even better way of dealing with the situation

Not always an option though Graham, and by perpetually seeking escape despite evidence that none is available, you will only narrow your focus - and in so doing lose the width of vision required to succeed.

**Russ B** · 04-07-2005, 19:00

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Originally Posted by Raistlin

If you enter with "supreme confidence" in your ability to block (or whatever) then you are likely to get a hiding.

Don't you mean over confidence?

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Originally Posted by Raistlin

Only by realising, and accepting, the possibility of defeat will you be able to reach your full potential.

Well you're welcome to feel that way of course but I disagree strongly. Letting doubt creep in to your mind will surely create a crack in your mental armour.

allieyoung666 · 04-07-2005, 19:02

You still have to know how to defend yourself though Graham, some situations you cannot walk away from. If your instructor is good they will teach how to control yourself, I mean I am not going to go down Stockton high street tomorrow and kick somebodies bottom because I do not like the look of them. It is all about control and restraint and not going out to look for trouble.

ikthius · 04-07-2005, 19:03

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Originally Posted by Russ D

I disagree - going in to a fight with the acceptance that your blocks may fail isn't the right frame of mind IMO. You can have extreme confidence going in to a fight and still have respect for your oponent.

knowing a martial art does not make you any better at fighting, you will never know what other people know, so if you think that because you know kung fu, you will win a fight/situation, then you will be defeated.

if I was in a pub, and someone wanted to fight me, I would know I know kung fu, but I would not know this peron may know jujitsu/karate/etc they may even be a psychopath wanting to cut you a new bum hole.

ik

**Rob M** · 04-07-2005, 19:03

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Originally Posted by Russ D

Well you're welcome to feel that way of course but I disagree strongly. Letting doubt creep in to your mind will surely create a crack in your mental armour.

Only by acknowledging your frailties can you hope to realise your true strength. The mental armour provides protection only for a fool, if it restricts his mobility because of its weight.

**Russ B** · 04-07-2005, 19:06

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Originally Posted by Raistlin

Only by acknowledging your frailties can you hope to realise your true strength. The mental armour provides protection only for a fool, if it restricts his mobility because of its weight.

Wow, aren't we getting all Jedi-master tonight

Acknowledging your frailities is one thing, losing belief in your abilities is another!

**Rob M** · 04-07-2005, 19:10

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Originally Posted by Russ D

Acknowledging your frailities is one thing, losing belief in your abilities is another!

Ahhh....now you approach the truth from the angle that brings enlightenment grasshopper.....

The fall from a height of over confidence will break more bones than a stumble into the depths of humility. Only from the foot of the mountain can you truely appreciate the task ahead.

ikthius · 04-07-2005, 19:11

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Originally Posted by Russ D

Wow, aren't we getting all Jedi-master tonight

Acknowledging your frailities is one thing, losing belief in your abilities is another!

its not about losing belief in your abilities, its about accepting your level of abilities and not underestimating your opponents abilites.

example, I fought a guy who fought for scotland for +80kg category (i was in the +75kg - 80kg category), to go into the world championships, he was very confident he was going to walk all over me, as he told my instructor, who knows him well. My instructor said well good luck. I had only done one other competition before and I just went in there believing I was going to get my ass kicked.

He only beat me by one point, cause I am a cocky we sh*t and he did not know how to really handle me.

I knew I was beat but I gave it my all, and done very well, I cam second in the competition.

ik

**Russ B** · 04-07-2005, 19:12

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Originally Posted by Raistlin

The fall from a height of over confidence will break more bones than a stumble into the depths of humility. Only from the foot of the mountain can you truely appreciate the task ahead.

The man who fails to listen on the forum, usually ends up with shame...

I'm not talking about over-confidence, I'm talking about eliminating the negatives from your mind.

Graham · 04-07-2005, 19:14

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Originally Posted by Raistlin

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Originally Posted by Graham

Having the confidence not to *get* into a fight or to walk away from it is an even better way of dealing with the situation

Not always an option though Graham,

No, but not being in the situation in the first place is a much better way of handling it.

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and by perpetually seeking escape despite evidence that none is available, you will only narrow your focus - and in so doing lose the width of vision required to succeed.

Where is this "evidence"?

I know a *lot* of ways of avoiding situations where trouble could/ is developing and frankly I would rather succeed in getting away from it than having to fight my way out of it.