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Old 15-05-2005, 13:12   #1
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Maths help needed!

Hey, doing some revision here and I just can't for the life of me work out how do this:

I needed to factorise this term by x:

xlog(a)
________ = 1
xlog(2b)

How do you factorise a fraction by a term which is on top and bottom?

Help would be appreciated, thanks
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Old 15-05-2005, 13:25   #2
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Re: Maths help needed!

Im sure you divide it
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Re: Maths help needed!

I would have said it doesnt factorise, since if you divide both top and bottom by x then x disappears from the equation altogther, leaving :
log(a) / log(2b) = 1


thus log(a) = log(2b)from which a=2b
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Old 15-05-2005, 13:56   #4
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Re: Maths help needed!

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I would have said it doesnt factorise, since if you divide both top and bottom by x then x disappears from the equation altogther, leaving :
log(a) / log(2b) = 1


thus log(a) = log(2b)from which a=2b
Yeah that's what I thought but unfortunately I was told find x?

I think the question is wrong.
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Old 15-05-2005, 14:20   #5
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Re: Maths help needed!

It is. However you look at it x cancels.
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Re: Maths help needed!

So x=0 ?
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Re: Maths help needed!

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So x=0 ?
Nope, x can be any number but 0 provided that a=2b.

Are you sure you typed the equation correctly?
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Re: Maths help needed!

x is anything you like, except 0 (you can't divide by zero).
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Old 15-05-2005, 15:19   #9
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Thanks everyone
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Re: Maths help needed!

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x is anything you like, except 0 (you can't divide by zero).
it doesn't make sense to you computing folk, but i spent a good while in pure maths classes trying to figure out what 0/0 is in various cases...
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if you rearrange such that log(a^x)=log((2b)^x), then theres no reason x cant be zero

apologies for pedantry!
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if you rearrange such that log(a^x)=log((2b)^x), then theres no reason x cant be zero

apologies for pedantry!
Surely there is- as it's still re-arrangeable back to x log a = x log y, and that cancels. It's also still common to both sides as it is there as well.
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Surely there is- as it's still re-arrangeable back to x log a = x log y, and that cancels. It's also still common to both sides as it is there as well.
...but the possiblity of it being zero is still there, you only 'cancel' to discard the trivial answer!

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Re: Maths help needed!

I've a similar problem (Is this off topic?)

£1 = 100 p
= (10p) * (10p)
= (£0.1) * (£0.1)
= £0.01
= 1p

So, £1 = 1 penny. What the!
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= (10p) * (10p)
eh no

= 10p * 10
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eh no

= 10p * 10
Exactly what I was going to say... you can't factorise as well as take the units to two quantities in the process.

Going from £1 = 100p to 10*10p is fine but multiplying 10p*10p gives 10p^2.
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