Council Idiots

[Escapee]

I may of mentioned in a thread about trying to buy a deserted property from the council recently, there is no access to the property other than through my land, because they had to buy it when they cut the access off the other side for a nerw road. They bought it after the owner took them to the european court.

Anyway, things have changed a bit. The local council were trying to build a school here, there were a lot of protests but I didn't bother much because cynical old me said it would never happen, as it was the most stupid place they could attempt to build it. The fact that they wanted it with a couple of bridges crossing one of the fastest flowing sections of river in wales made it a no-no for kids, as well as the access being crap and the site not big enough.

The council tried their best to push it through and fortunately the welsh assembly looked at it and withdrew the funds, because they at least realised it was a stupid idea. The council leader put a letter in the paper having a go at all the people who opposed it and was basically like a kid throwing his toys out of the pram.

Now they have a new idea, I live next door to this new proposed scheme and for some reason the council decided not to inform me about it. They are now planning to put accomodation for 20 poeple between teh ages of 16 and 25 at the site, these will be people from broken families. They will not be Drug Addicts, louts, trouble makers or scum!!!!!Right
I did ask the council why their family kicked them out if they are so nice, but they declined to answer that one.

Anyway, they bought an old building for a site to place the proposed school, and they are now obviously finding that jumping he gun to buy the property means thay have to do anything to get it off their hands now. The "Council" is applying to the welsh assembly for a grant on behalf of this trust to buy the properties from the "Council" for about 3.5 times the price the council paid for them. now thats a nice little profit, especially when you consider they were bought originally from a grant for education!

I phoned up today and spoke to the Housing development manager and created hell about not being informed, I said 20 units will not fit on th plot. She said we have just agreed to purchase the property (its for sale) between the old building and the cottage (one I have been trying to buy) that means we now have a site big enough for 20 units.

I said "Do you realise you don't own the land between the cottage and the road"

There was a deadly silence and she said "Oh I didn't realise that" the idiots have only gone and included my bit of land in the development thinking they own it

"Do you have deeds" yes thanks I said...."When can I mee with you" she said..... "Are you willing to sell" she said.
honestly, the amount of trouble I have had with the council over this piece of land is amazing. I have even pt notices on there and sent copies of the deeds clearly marked to planning and asset management, and they still cant get their act together.

I think I have certainly put a spoke in the works, as they have already said they can not carry out compulsory purchase because it doesn't meet the required criteria. How much do you reckon my land is worth to let them build some houses for those sort of poeple!

The 60K they are spending on the empty cottage is now a waste of money, it will cost them another 20K to demolish and clear. Without my piece of land its more wasted money. The council here have been buying up property left right and centre, at the same time the schools and leisure centre etc are falling apart. They are saying some schools will have to be demolished because they haven't maintained them, they are now trying desperately to offload all their surplus buildings to property developers so they can keep their heads above water!

[Ramrod]

Sounds about right for a council...........bunch of t*ssers

[Graham M]

I just read that and my mouth gradually opened further, what a bunch of Toss Pots!

its ok - these little flying robots crash-land in a spaceship & save the day

[aliferste]

Originally Posted by Escapee

They are now planning to put accomodation for 20 poeple between teh ages of 16 and 25 at the site, these will be people from broken families. They will not be Drug Addicts, louts, trouble makers or scum!!!!!Right
I did ask the council why their family kicked them out if they are so nice, but they declined to answer that one.

Generally people have not been taken into care because they have done something wrong. They are taken into care because something bad is being done TO them.
Their families have not kicked them out they had been taken out their homes to protect them. Everyone in my view owes these kids something .

They are hardly going to tell you why the kids are not with their families.......how would you like your neighbour knowing you were sexually abused as a kid...or something similar!

That aside......yup sounds like the council are proper idiots

[Richard M]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Sounds about right for a council...........bunch of t*ssers

What he said ^ - I'm paying nearly £800 a year for bloody council tax!

[paulyoung666]

how much would they pay you for the land ??? , it might be a nice retirement fund

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by aliferste

Generally people have not been taken into care because they have done something wrong. They are taken into care because something bad is being done TO them.
Their families have not kicked them out they had been taken out their homes to protect them. Everyone in my view owes these kids something .

They are hardly going to tell you why the kids are not with their families.......how would you like your neighbour knowing you were sexually abused as a kid...or something similar!

That aside......yup sounds like the council are proper idiots

I know what your saying, the council keep refering to the same trust running a similar place in Newport. This one is located right on the doorstep of the police station, so they have to behave, apparently there is another in Cardiff that has given the residents lots of problems. I think the council is trying to dump one here because the residents defeated them over the school plan.

They are specifically saying these people are not removed from thier home because of abuse, they have been turfed out due to differences with their parents. That is something they are being very specific about!

The interesting point about the school was no-one objected to having a new school, just the stupid location. There were people from the education authority all for the school, when they actually told the truth after it failed they said "We had to be all for it, as it was the only location offered" they knew it was a bad idea but it was their only hope.

Paul666 they are paying 60K for a smaller bit of land and have the cost of demolishing the empty property, I now have the prime piece of the jigsaw and all through their incompetence!

I just wonder if teh welsh assembly is aware of their underhanded tricks with the grant applications, and how they are having an infalted grant to buy two properties that they bought with grants about 7 years ago.

[Halcyon]

Theres a house down my road that is too old to put back in good condition and the buyer has decided he wants to knock it down.
He had the cheek to knock on my neighbours house and ask if he would sell his house and garden so that could also be knocked down for his little mini estate he wished to build.
The thing is, he offered him nearly double the price his house would normally sell for so if they are going to pay you for your house, Dont make it easy for them and accept any odd amount; make sure you really ask for some real money.
Lcukily my neighbour declined as it would have looked awful and he is in no mood to move house.
Also if youi send any information to places, make sure you keep the original paper work and send photocopies.
Dont let yourself be given a small pay check, insist on atleast double.

[MetaWraith]

start thinking of some interesting caveats you could include, should you decide to sell the land * evil cackle *

[SMHarman]

There is an empty awkward plot next to my house, my neighbour to the rear has sold most his garden to the owner of this plot and the council has just granted permission for three townhouses to be crammed on this site. It will mean the plot from the main road to my back garden turns into road / parking, the houses will be built half way up my back garden and being townhouses will overlook my garden and all the back windows of my house .
My only route of appeal is to the High Court. Like I can afford that. Some fair and equitable planning process that is.

[Maggy J]

Well the house that has been inserted in the space next to my house is way too close to the house on the other side.There is about 2 feet of space between the two houses.Also the main door of the original neighbouring house opens into this 2 foot gap.I'm just waiting to see the clowns who buy it try to get their furniture in the older house.

IF they can fit it between the two houses they will have to push it through to the back garden and try and fit it through the back door into the kitchen.I hope I'm home to watch the fun.

The planning officer who did the inspection was an idiot. I've got all my light blocked so I have to have my kitchen light on ALL day when I'm at home during the day.

The only consolation is that I SHOULD get a new fence out of it.However I'd rather have a better view than a brick wall.

[BBKing]

they had to buy it when they cut the access off the other side for a nerw road. They bought it after the owner took them to the european court.

Known as a 'helipad' in the legal jargon, according to my old man. I'll point him in the direction of this thread, as he could use a laugh at the moment.

What he said ^ - I'm paying nearly £800 a year for bloody council tax!

Is that all? I'd love to pay so little, and I have a Tory council (and the London Assembly, which costs a packet). £1200 on a small band C terraced house.

[Paul]

To be honest I would offer them a deal on the land, buy the land to access their site and your house for at least double the market value, should be enough to move to a nice quiet area If you don't want to move then I'd tell them to whistle for it, they can't even touvh that land if they can't get to it, could always set up a toll booth

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by Paul

To be honest I would offer them a deal on the land, buy the land to access their site and your house for at least double the market value, should be enough to move to a nice quiet area If you don't want to move then I'd tell them to whistle for it, they can't even touvh that land if they can't get to it, could always set up a toll booth

The funniest part, is when they took away the access from next door they could of taken my bit of land as compulsory purchase, my grandfather owned it then and the compulsory purchase value was only £6K, but the council. My grandfather would of been happy with the £6K because the land is not being used, but they didnt want it and paid the guy £45K for the property instead of spending the £6K plus some civils work to provide access.

I bet they are kicking themselves now, they can't get it under compulsory purchase and the price has gone up from £6k to £100K minimum now I own it.
And to make things easier I have already had the pice of land seperated before the mortgage application, just in case I was able to buy next door.

It will be an easy transaction, £120K and they can have my bit of land!