Gay men and children

As for gay couples to be able to adopt children, I totally do not know. You must ask whether or not it is fair on the child - he could be subject to a school life of bullying if everybody knew that he had two Dads or two Mums. I also think that psychologically a child requires a father and a mother for balanced development, so would it be fair on the child?

But then again, is it fair on gay people to never be able to be a parent?

Tough issue I'm afraid.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Damien

Again i think that the fact the child is talking to a adult on the internet would be of far greater concern to most parents than if they are gay or not.

Absolutely!

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by greencreeper

Without criticism, and I understand what you're saying, but do you not think it would be better to trust your kids to come to you if there was a problem, rather than showing them mistrust by monitoring them?

Of course.....but would they know there was a 'problem'?

[greencreeper]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Of course.....but would they know there was a 'problem'?

That would depend on the parenting skills of the parent - if a kid has a sense of what's right and wrong, and is aware that not all adults are nice people like mum and dad, then they should be alright. When I say kid, I'm taking about someone in their mid-teens - 15/16. No way should, say, a 10 year old be left to use the Internet unsupervised or be allowed to use MSN/chat That's why I dislike nanny software - it's just a very poor substitute for decent parenting.

[Paul M]

Originally Posted by greencreeper

Say what you think and feel, not what you're supposed to think and feel

Okay

Should gay men adopt children ? - on their own - No.

I don't think any single man (or woman) should adopt children, be they gay or otherwise. Nor do I believe so called 'gay couples' (two men/women) should either. I believe a child needs a mother and a father, simple as that.

I don't have a teenage son, but I do have three [younger] daughters and I would not be at all happy with them chatting to much older men, I would most certainly make sure it was logged for me to check on.

I don't worry about gay teachers [or gay people in general] as long as they don't try and promote their lifestyle to me (or my children) as being the normal way of things - because no matter how much gays protest about it and call me names (usually ending in "...phobic" ), *I* do not consider gay to be the normal, natural way of things (and please do not confuse this with thinking it is bad, I do not consider it bad, I just do not consider it the norm).

So there you have it.

[Damien]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Of course.....but would they know there was a 'problem'?

I agree, i think that it would be a good idea for a parent to keep a careful eye on their childs net activitys. Not just because of 'dirty old men (or women)' but i would imagine that a parent would fear their child being exposed to certain themes to early in life.

[greencreeper]

Originally Posted by Paul M

Okay

Should gay men adopt children ? - on their own - No.

I don't think any single man (or woman) should adopt children, be they gay or otherwise. Nor do I believe so called 'gay couples' (two men/women) should either. I believe a child needs a mother and a father, simple as that.

I don't have a teenage son, but I do have three [younger] daughters and I would not be at all happy with them chatting to much older men, I would most certainly make sure it was logged for me to check on.

I don't worry about gay teachers [or gay people in general] as long as they don't try and promote their lifestyle to me (or my children) as being the normal way of things - because no matter how much gays protest about it and call me names (usually ending in "...phobic" ), *I* do not consider gay to be the normal, natural way of things (and please do not confuse this with thinking it is bad, I do not consider it bad, I just do not consider it the norm).

So there you have it.

Thanks for your honesty - appreciated.

I'm beginning to wonder what I've done - creepy, abnormal and unnatural so far. I'll just dust down my mac Wanna come look at my puppies?

[Damien]

Originally Posted by Paul M

Okay

Should gay men adopt children ? - on their own - No.

I don't think any single man (or woman) should adopt children, be they gay or otherwise. Nor do I believe so called 'gay couples' (two men/women) should either. I believe a child needs a mother and a father, simple as that.

I don't have a teenage son, but I do have three [younger] daughters and I would not be at all happy with them chatting to much older men, I would most certainly make sure it was logged for me to check on.

I don't worry about gay teachers [or gay people in general] as long as they don't try and promote their lifestyle to me (or my children) as being the normal way of things - because no matter how much gays protest about it and call me names (usually ending in "...phobic" ), *I* do not consider gay to be the normal, natural way of things (and please do not confuse this with thinking it is bad, I do not consider it bad, I just do not consider it the norm).

So there you have it.

Good post and i agree on most points, although i am not sure about a gay couple having a kid its a real grey area. Also as for gays not beiing 'normal' i think a lot of gay people would agree. I am not gay and i dont consider it normal but the thing to remember is that i dont think people CHOSE to be gay rather they just happen to be so.....

[Maggy J]

If you suspect your child is gay why not trust them and ask?Could it be that parents know but just don't want to acknowledge it?

I asked my daughter.She admits to swinging in both directions.However we have yet to inform her father or anyone else in the family.I suggested that a former Royal Naval Charge Chief that has a hatred for gays developed by the old attitudes engendered by that institution needs to be approached carefully and with many dropped hints along the way.

My son tells me he is most definitely not gay and judging by some of the 'literature' in his room I believe him.He just doesn't like the representatives of the female gender that he is aquainted with at school thus far which is why he is avoiding the dating ordeal that so many of his age have to stumble through.

So I say again if you want to know ask.Unless you are scared of the answer.

As for the older man gay or otherwise chatting to my daughter or son I don't mind.Not everyone is a paedophile after all.It's when my daughter wanted to meet anyone that I panicked and insisted on going with her.

My son has thus far shown no real interest in chat rooms until this year when his PC broke and he had nothing to do but visit Xbox forums on my PC.If he wants to meet someone I will no doubt go with him just to check.

Incog.

Originally Posted by Escapee

I was in a situation towards the end of last year when a gilfriend dumped me and said she couldnt trust me because I was not religious and may interfere with her two young daughters like Ian Huntley did!
I was shocked, and don't know how she could of come to this conclusion, then I wondered if it was because I'm in my late 30's never been married and I am living alone. I suppose it could make some people wonder about me, and quite frankly I can understand it.

It's hardly as though being a single guy in your late 30s is a particularly uncommon thing though. Frankly, if she can come out with wonderful "logic" such as that you are probably best out of it. I find her justification that it is because you aren`t religious to be rather ironic, did you point her in the direction of any news articles concerning Catholic priests in American?

[Damien]

Originally Posted by greencreeper

Thanks for your honesty - appreciated.

I'm beginning to wonder what I've done - creepy, abnormal and unnatural so far. I'll just dust down my mac Wanna come look at my puppies?

maybe its because you have 'creeper' in your name When you say MAC do you mean coat or computer?

If you mean computer then i kill you

[greencreeper]

Originally Posted by Damien

maybe its because you have 'creeper' in your name When you say MAC do you mean coat or computer?

If you mean computer then i kill you

I think (can't be sure) that greencreeper is a Stephen King word - if memory serves, he was recalling a dinner party where a kid overheard the adults discussing the "grim reaper" and the kid had nightmares afterwards about the "greencreeper". I think I might have made things worse It was the first thing that came to mind

Mac as in the plastic thing, and not the poor substitute for a proper PC

[Maggy J]

OH dear you had to mention plastic macs and substitutes.

I feel a Who album is called for.......I wonder where it is?

[Jefferson T]

I can't honestly say for sure - I think I'd watch a couple of conversations to see what the other person was like...

I'll let you know when/if I ever get into that situation.

It doesn't bother me by the way

[greencreeper]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

OH dear you had to mention plastic macs and substitutes.

I feel a Who album is called for.......I wonder where it is?

Now that is a long time ago Coggy! Crumbs.