Jehova's Witness - Confused.....

dilligaf1701 · 24-06-2004, 23:29

Now - as some of you may know from my postings I normally TRY to avoid religion in my posts, But I have a question which someone on here may know the answer to.

First my 'history' with regard to the question....

A couple of years ago I allowed some Jehovas Witnesses in to have a discussion. Anyway to cut a very long story short I had to ask them to leave in the end as they started saying I should be dead and am an abomination... Amongst other things (they got VERY vocal before they left).

I am a diabetic on insulin and apprently this offended them something chronic.

What I'd like to know is this...

Is this a standard reply/action that I should meet when meeting someone from this faith (which to be honest I've avoided doing since as it upset me quite a bit then and now) - and if it IS normal for that fait what do THEY do if someone of their faith needs insulin?

If this is not normal then fine it must just be the local members that are/were doing it. I'd just like to know what I did that upset them so much.

I'm NOT trying to start an argument over the religion - just find out some answers.

If you'd rather PM me with an answer then that's fine.

Cheers in advance.

**Russ** · 24-06-2004, 23:45

Just tell them you're not interested. Simple.

dilligaf1701 · 24-06-2004, 23:48

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Originally Posted by Russ D

Just tell them you're not interested. Simple.

I have told them this since - but I just want to know where they are 'coming from' if you see what I mean - and if it was just those people or if they were speaking for the whole religion.

MetaWraith · 24-06-2004, 23:59

Last time I wanted some J.W's to leave I got up and said "Sorry we'll have to cut this short as I have an appointment to donate blood, maybe we can continue another time". Never had another visit since.

**Russ** · 24-06-2004, 23:59

There are quite a few 'sects' of the JWs - it's not always possible to be sure who you're dealing with. Give me half an hour and I'll be home and I'll tell you more then.

25-06-2004, 00:00

Jehovas Witnesses have a 'thing' about blood. They will not alow the blood of another person to enter their bodies, or their famalies. So I suppose an 'illogical'extension to that would include any other chemical produced in the human body. Why they hold this belief I dont know, nor can I understand such a mindset.

If I was you mate, the next time they call by, tell them to feck off. Cheeky sods, if they had called me an abomination, they would finish the conversation round my fist.

Arrogant pigs.

**Rob** · 25-06-2004, 00:00

I know they have some weird beliefs like no blood transfusions (that might actually be sensible in this day and age), even if that means you will die without the medical intervention. Presumably the insulin thing extends that strange process.

I never get religion due to this sort of thing. I always thought religion was about promoting tolerance, wellbeing, moral strength and all that. These days more and more it seems to be a case of my beliefs must be your beliefs and if you don't toe my line your below contempt. As a result I avoid religion of any kind at all costs (why am I posting here then

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carlingman · 25-06-2004, 00:03

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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

I have told them this since - but I just want to know where they are 'coming from' if you see what I mean - and if it was just those people or if they were speaking for the whole religion.

Well from a personal perspective to myself.

I have a cousin and cousin in law who are "practising" Jehovah Witnessess and my partner Julie is also diabetic and insulin dependant and never have I known them to express any issues with about this with us.

It is possible though they are just being polite to myself and Julies as they do live 200 miles away and we only see each other a couple of times per year for family get togethers etc. but on every occasion they have been aware of the fact that Julie is insulin dependant etc and never have either of them expressed any issues or concerns with this.

I know they have strong feelings on blood transfusions etc., and at Xmas time me and Julie can only give gifts to their children if they are wrapped up in plain brown paper as they do not celebrate Xmas etc and they even take their children out of school at this time to avoid any celebrations etc.

But the insulin/diabetic issue is a new one on me.

My cousins who are Jehovas Witnesses are currently away at the moment so I cannot phone to tactfully ask but I also work with someone who is and if I get chance and he is in work tomorrow then I will tactfully ask him tomorrow and post back with any information I find.

punky · 25-06-2004, 00:03

dilligaf1701, both the Jehaovas Witnesses and the Mormons (Err sorry, Church of the Latter Day Saints) have the "God's will" approach to healthcare. They reject anything modern, but particularly anything to save lives (blood transfusions/cancer treatment, etc). Rather than take themselves to hospital, they'd rather deal with it themselves, and let God decide his fate.

That was a bit strong what they said about you. If you didn't say anything about them, I think they said it because they think you should let nature/God take its cause and let you die.

This is the extreme view though. All the major religions embrace new technology and healthcare techniques. Even Islamic clerics in the middle have been known to use the Internet to help reach their congregation better.

MetaWraith · 25-06-2004, 00:10

If there is a supreme being (GOD) or a whole Pantheon of GODS, then aren't all religions but aspects of a single greater religion ?

Is so why the feck can't they get along or at least tolerate others.

bbwannabe · 25-06-2004, 00:11

i dont mean to be dumb, honest... but whats a jehovah witness? (thats a serious question)

Nikko · 25-06-2004, 00:15

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Originally Posted by bbwannabe

i dont mean to be dumb, honest... but whats a jehovah witness? (thats a serious question)

Don't worry you are not missing anything

MetaWraith · 25-06-2004, 00:17

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Originally Posted by bbwannabe

i dont mean to be dumb, honest... but whats a jehovah witness? (thats a serious question)

http://www.carm.org/witnesses.htm

http://www.watchtower.org/

bbwannabe · 25-06-2004, 00:24

http://www.carm.org/jw/nutshell.htm

OMG thats a nutshell.

Thanks for the link...but any shorter definition.

scrotnig · 25-06-2004, 00:25

Jehova's Witnesses hold an annual conference every year, often at places like Twickenham Rugby ground. 20,000 of them on average attend these.

I'm frankly amazed that the people on the doors let them in, I'd have thought they'd be a bit reluctant really.

In more recent years, automated turnstiles have been programmed with a series of random phrases such as 'not today thanks I'm busy', or 'sorry I'm in the middle of making the tea'.