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Old 04-04-2004, 21:32   #1
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Viagra

Ok, so we where down the local today ( mixed bunch of lads and lasses ) and the subject of viagra came up, so to speak :pp
Now a certain lady made a comment along the lines of viagra having an effect on women as well as men

Anyone know of or heard anything to say so, I thought it was just ...... well a male thing, you know ?????

PS.... no I don't do it \ need it
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Old 04-04-2004, 22:34   #2
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Now a certain lady made a comment along the lines of viagra having an effect on women as well as men

Anyone know of or heard anything to say so, I thought it was just ...... well a male thing, you know ?????
A useful link is http://pharmacy.ucsf.edu/ccsc/medq/viagra/

It points out that Viagra is not an "aphrodisiac", all it does it help a man achieve/ maintain an erection, it does not affect sexual desire.

As such, whilst it may also, in the female, cause engorgement of the clitoris (it being erectile tissue just as the penis is) and possibly the vaginal area, thus potentially increasing stimulation, it is not a "cure" for female sexual disorders as such and wouldn't have the same sort of effect as it would, of course, on many men.

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This is not aimed at you, personally, but it's a shame that there is this "macho culture" in men that effectively *requires* such a denial to be made.

The TV ads for the InformED with Pele were, at least a step forward in pointing out that many men *do* have erection problems, it was just a shame that the site was just a blatant shill for Pfizer to flog Viagra.

It's also a fact that many men would be too embarassed to go even to their doctors to talk about a problem and, as such, end up feeling miserable when they don't need to.

There are apparently some herbal products etc out there which *are* effective (or, at least, effective in, say 90% - 95% of cases), a recent article in ETO (Erotic Trade Only) Magazine (Yep! We have our own trade paper!).

Some of these reports come from people I have good reason to trust the veracity of, since I have been doing business with them for years now, so I think they're credible, but like most people I've been put off because of the sheer number of scammers and spammers and people who would swear on a stack of bibles and their mother's grave to sell you something that would have as much effect as a lump of sugar.

The problem is that, because of people like these and the lack of (expensive) pharmaceutical testing, too many people are reluctant to experiment with something that may be an expensive waste.

As such, so far I've always steered clear of these products because the reputation of my business is important to me and I don't want to lose customers by selling non-functional rubbish, but in light of the article in ETO I may change my mind on this and, yes, I *would* try out the products myself to make sure they do what they claim.
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Old 04-04-2004, 22:41   #3
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This is not aimed at you, personally, but it's a shame that there is this "macho culture" in men that effectively *requires* such a denial to be made.

The TV ads for the InformED with Pele were, at least a step forward in pointing out that many men *do* have erection problems, it was just a shame that the site was just a blatant shill for Pfizer to flog Viagra.
I don't think it's always 'macho-culture'. If I was taking/had taken it I certainly would never confirm or discuss it simply because it's no-one else's business.

Saying that, if someone *did* need it and wasn't sure where to get it, just sign up for an NTL email account and pretty soon you'll have numerous daily reminders of all the sites you can buy it from
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I don't think it's always 'macho-culture'. If I was taking/had taken it I certainly would never confirm or discuss it simply because it's no-one else's business.
True, but it's when a man won't even discuss it with his partner or doctor that things start going awry.

It's like the use of the word w**k*r as an insult (edit, it didn't let the first version through, obviously the system knows that way of concealing the word!)

The fact is that 99% of men have masturbated...

... and the other one is a liar!
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Would a guy need to discuss it with his 'partner' (grrrrr I hate that word)? I mean, you'd think she'd notice......
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I *would* try out the products myself to make sure they do what they claim.
Surely you'd have to suffer from impotency in order to test them properly?
How will you know if it's the products or normal functionality?
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Surely you'd have to suffer from impotency in order to test them properly?
How will you know if it's the products or normal functionality?
Ive heard you can go for ages even if you dont have a problem....Im up for it
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Ive heard you can go for ages even if you dont have a problem....Im up for it
Can't you do that already?
Pelvic floor excercises mate, flex the muscle that stops you peeing, build it strong and enter the multiple world

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Re: Viagra

The info that I have read about Viagra (in the papers) indicates that it can have an effect on women and it can enhance a non impotent mans 'experience'.
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Its unfair viagra is only available for those able to afford it. What about the Hard Up?
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On a side note will this thread need 'bumping' so it rises to the top of the forum discussions or will it do that automatically?
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On a side note will this thread need 'bumping' so it rises to the top of the forum discussions or will it do that automatically?
It makes it easier to keep up, Mick - but the thread needs fresh content or we will soon be bored stiff.
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Have you heard about viagra eyedrops?
They do nothing for your erection, but they don't half make you look hard!
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My mate uses it to bang birds all night, seems a popular thing if you just wanna do a all nighter
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My mate uses it to bang birds all night, seems a popular thing if you just wanna do a all nighter
Shouldn't you report him to the RSPB?
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