Weedkillers and Pesticides

[mart44]

Has everyone safely disposed of all banned pesticides and weedkillers yet? I checked the list following a recent news item on Meridian TV. I only had one item but there's not long to go now before the deadline is reached for getting rid of it.

Here's a link to the relevant pages (click on the 'amateur' link when you get there):

http://www.pesticides.gov.uk/citize...m_gardeners.htm

[Ramrod]

erm.....I bet the French and Italians don't get rid of theirs

[snodvan]

Originally Posted by mart44

Has everyone safely disposed of all banned pesticides and weedkillers yet? I checked the list following a recent news item on Meridian TV. I only had one item but there's not long to go now before the deadline is reached for getting rid of it.

Here's a link to the relevant pages (click on the 'amateur' link when you get there):

http://www.pesticides.gov.uk/citize...m_gardeners.htm

Would explain why some outlets have LOTS of things like Jeys Fluid / Mortegg (tar oil content) at knock down prices .... must go to buy a lot of it today/ Monday

[luftys]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

erm.....I bet the French and Italians don't get rid of theirs

Yes they will will send it all over to us ever one else does

[mart44]

The paragraph that mentions the 'M' and a number is worth noting. Some products have kept the same name whilst updating it. It seems it's the code rather than the name that really matters.

That should save hiding some items away when the pesticide police come calling.

[Theodoric]

Originally Posted by snodvan

Would explain why some outlets have LOTS of things like Jeys Fluid / Mortegg (tar oil content) at knock down prices .... must go to buy a lot of it today/ Monday

Damn! I'd just been to Homebase before reading this. My tin of Jeyes fluid is still half full, but if it's no longer available I'd better stock up on a few years' supply. Whoops, sorry! Ignore that last sentence; I'd be (gasp! horror!) breaking the law! I shall definitely not be buying any!

[Atomic22]

what do people use jeyes fluid for in this day and age?????
everything junked has modern equivelants that don't rip your insides apart or kill the environment.......
rushing out to buy things they are banning , like jeyes fluid , coz its going cheap is irresponsible
sorry about the rant but things aren't banned for no reason , they are banned coz they are bad

[Theodoric]

Originally Posted by Atomic22

what do people use jeyes fluid for in this day and age?????
everything junked has modern equivelants that don't rip your insides apart or kill the environment.......
rushing out to buy things they are banning , like jeyes fluid , coz its going cheap is irresponsible
sorry about the rant but things aren't banned for no reason , they are banned coz they are bad

A few points.

1) I don't wish to continue Jeyes fluid because it's going cheap; I wish to use it because I know it is a good disinfectant.

2) The various materials are not being banned because of any specific risk, they're being banned because the manufacturers don't find it commercially worth while having them tested to modern standards.

3) So what is a powerful disinfectant that can be used for gardening use?

[snodvan]

Originally Posted by Atomic22

what do people use jeyes fluid for in this day and age?????
everything junked has modern equivelants that don't rip your insides apart or kill the environment.......
rushing out to buy things they are banning , like jeyes fluid , coz its going cheap is irresponsible
sorry about the rant but things aren't banned for no reason , they are banned coz they are bad

I'm perfectly well aware of the tar oil toxicity issues having followed EC legislation over some 20 years before I retired. I am also well aware of how to handle/ use such things for minimum environmental damage (Chartered Chemist etc). Compared to some organo phosphorus / chlorine derivatives the tar oil cuts are mild but DO have a very useful function eg sterilising inside greenhouses and compost containers over winter when there are very few plants around/ no bees etc but lots of hibernating creepy crawlies - and for dormant fruit trees. Personally I would rather use tar oil over winter than some pseudo nerve gas (some organo phosporus types) on the insects etc when they emerge in spring & summer 'cos they were not killed off over winter

[mart44]

I maybe should have also mentioned that storing items on the list after the deadline carries a fine but I don't see how the authorities would ever find out about that, so there didn't seem a point in doing so.

I suppose how seriously the list is taken is up to individual choice. I treat it seriously because I feel it was probably compiled by people who know more than I do about the sort of damage these untested (to present standards) substances could cause to the environment.

It maybe the case that nobody has any of this stuff hanging around anyway. It hasn't been sold since July 2003. The list is just highlighted for those who might wish to check it. Perhaps, like me, some people haven't realised that the weed killers/pesticides are supposed to be disposed of before the end of the month.

Just being public spirited here

The way I read it, the use of Jeyes Fluid is only prohibited for use on plants (I've never used it on them anyway). Presumably it's just no good for wildlife.

[Theodoric]

Originally Posted by mart44

I maybe should have also mentioned that storing items on the list after the deadline carries a fine but I don't see how the authorities would ever find out about that, so there didn't seem a point in doing so.

I suppose how seriously the list is taken is up to individual choice. I treat it seriously because I feel it was probably compiled by people who know more than I do about the sort of damage these untested (to present standards) substances could cause to the environment.

It maybe the case that nobody has any of this stuff hanging around anyway. It hasn't been sold since July 2003. The list is just highlighted for those who might wish to check it. Perhaps, like me, some people haven't realised that the weed killers/pesticides are supposed to be disposed of before the end of the month.

Just being public spirited here

The way I read it, the use of Jeyes Fluid is only prohibited for use on plants (I've never used it on them anyway). Presumably it's just no good for wildlife.

That restriction on use of Jeyes fluid would suit me. I only use it to disinfect the inside of the greenhouse and the plant pots.