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Old 05-03-2004, 20:31   #1
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Double Standards for Violence ... (cont.)

Stop Violence Towards Woman

Here we go again. Another example of double standards on violent behaviour.

When are these mindless regurgitators of populism gonna realise that if violence towards woman and children is gonna end then we have to tackle the source of the violence, which is the culture of violence between men and the mass condonement of it.

When are these politically correct moronic imbeciles gonna realise that if we think it's okay for men to communicate with each other with fists and other various implements, then that becomes an established method of dialogue for these individuals.

When are these yuppy bunny molesters gonna realise that this dialogue then ends up being expressed in the home's they live in towards thier wifes and children.

If these guys were firefighters they'd be aiming thier hoses at the flames above the house and not at whats on fire. Idiots.
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Re: Double Standards for Violence ... (cont.)

I can see why you call yourself the village idiot
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Old 05-03-2004, 21:58   #3
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Re: Double Standards for Violence ... (cont.)

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I can see why you call yourself the village idiot
Hang on I think xaq141175 may actually have a point.It's just that they have chosen a rather aggressive way to put it across.

I certainly think that it be actually considered.
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Re: Double Standards for Violence ... (cont.)

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Stop Violence Towards Woman

Here we go again. Another example of double standards on violent behaviour.

When are these mindless regurgitators of populism gonna realise that if violence towards woman and children is gonna end then we have to tackle the source of the violence, which is the culture of violence between men and the mass condonement of it.

When are these politically correct moronic imbeciles gonna realise that if we think it's okay for men to communicate with each other with fists and other various implements, then that becomes an established method of dialogue for these individuals.

When are these yuppy bunny molesters gonna realise that this dialogue then ends up being expressed in the home's they live in towards thier wifes and children.

If these guys were firefighters they'd be aiming thier hoses at the flames above the house and not at whats on fire. Idiots.
Read your thoughts but don't understand a thing your saying

All I can say is IMHO that as long as you have individuals ( judges ) with there own interpreitations then there will always be differet sentences past down for the same crime.
What we need is some sort of regulatory board as some say " the police, police " ( I A ) why not have a judges judge
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Re: Double Standards for Violence ... (cont.)

Why is it, that its the "Stop Violence Against Women"? What about men, aren't we worth it? Surely, the world would be better off if noone beat each up other rather just a lot women watching a load of men beat 7 bells out of each other?

Whatever happened to equality, eh?
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Re: Double Standards for Violence ... (cont.)

oh boy this topic takes me back Rachel's ex husband beat her up both mentally and physically from 3 years the guy was just a control freak if
she even look at another man she would have to well "make it up to him" whan she tryed to get away he would find her and drag her back in to
the world of hurt and pain saying i won't do it any more but he always
did if you ask me not Enough is being done to help the victims domestic Violence sad so sad
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Re: Double Standards for Violence ... (cont.)

Can we expect a "stop violence against men" day?

Nope.
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Re: Double Standards for Violence ... (cont.)

There is just as much violence in the home with the woman being the violent party both physically and mentally. The world must realise that violence is not acceptable from anyone, male or female, young or old, and should get rid of the idea that only women are the hard done to people.
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Re: Double Standards for Violence ... (cont.)

right then, i shall address the response's worthy of one ...

Incog - thanks, i know it was a little aggressive ... this is an important issue for me.

Bopdude - Violence isn't something that can be turned on and off, once it becomes a way of expressing anger then any situation that leads to anger will result in violence being commited. Just protecting woman and children is like trying to treat cancer by only removing 40% of the tumourous tissue from a patient with cancer.

Punky - Damn right dude ! ... I'm sick of cycling through the city at night and having some drunk thugs try to start a fight with me. I never get it from the woman or the older men. As a young man myself I don't feel safe going out amongst these knuckle draggers. I'm not allowed to defend myself so I just have to preclude the possibility of being attacked by not going out.

sir_drinks - i guess some men are violent due to 'mental dysfunction'. non-violent culture would be mute to those guys.

russ - we need one, thats for sure.

ian - damn right ! ... we just don't get to hear about it because the men keep it to themselves and female violence tends not to be as severe, physically at least. I've noticed the media has a double standard regarding intergender violence.
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Re: Double Standards for Violence ... (cont.)

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There is just as much violence in the home with the woman being the violent party both physically and mentally. T
Unforunetly not the case, on the whole its about 80/20 when it comes down to abusive relationships ie 80 women to 20 men in abusive relationships. This is why so much recources is given to Women.
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Re: Double Standards for Violence ... (cont.)

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right then, i shall address the response's worthy of one ...

Incog - thanks, i know it was a little aggressive ... this is an important issue for me.

Bopdude - Violence isn't something that can be turned on and off, once it becomes a way of expressing anger then any situation that leads to anger will result in violence being commited. Just protecting woman and children is like trying to treat cancer by only removing 40% of the tumourous tissue from a patient with cancer.

Punky - Damn right dude ! ... I'm sick of cycling through the city at night and having some drunk thugs try to start a fight with me. I never get it from the woman or the older men. As a young man myself I don't feel safe going out amongst these knuckle draggers. I'm not allowed to defend myself so I just have to preclude the possibility of being attacked by not going out.

sir_drinks - i guess some men are violent due to 'mental dysfunction'. non-violent culture would be mute to those guys.

russ - we need one, thats for sure.

ian - damn right ! ... we just don't get to hear about it because the men keep it to themselves and female violence tends not to be as severe, physically at least. I've noticed the media has a double standard regarding intergender violence.
I think you are getting mixed up about the issues around domestic violence and just plain old thuggery in the streets, which are two totally seperate issues. Two massively different issues which really canot be combined!
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Re: Double Standards for Violence ... (cont.)

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mindless regurgitators of populism, politically correct moronic imbeciles, yuppy bunny molesters

You have issues!! I would get that sorted out if i were you!
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Re: Double Standards for Violence ... (cont.)

Theres has recently been a war of words in the letters column of our local paper here in Teesside.

It started about Violence from women towards men, it went on to say that women are scheming and often make out their ex husbands are violent to stop them seeing their children etc.

One woman wrote back and basically told this guy that he was an idiot because women NEVER beat their husbands up and that all men wouold Beat their wifes up.

Just goes to show that some women live in denial, ever hear dof a woman being prosecuted for domestic violence? what about emotional violence? what about the false allegations women often seem to make against ex partners?

This brings me nicely to the alleged rape incidents that feature in the news these days. If a woman falsley accuses a man of rape out of vengeance then she should be sent to prison for 7 years to life. After all she was prepared to see an innocent man have the same sentence.
When it comes to equality in the law it just does not exist, A white man is less likely to receive the attention any crime against him should get, however the truelly battered wifes need more support and most police forces tend to do their best.
However battered husbands need an infrastructure put into place and women need to understand that their behaviour can be just as bad if not worse than mens.
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Re: Double Standards for Violence ... (cont.)

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You have issues!! I would get that sorted out if i were you!
Bit out of order isn't it for someone who is trying to make a point for something they believe in?
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Unforunetly not the case, on the whole its about 80/20 when it comes down to abusive relationships ie 80 women to 20 men in abusive relationships. This is why so much recources is given to Women.
Not as such. I have seen a few interesting articles about this, but I cant find any of those at the moment. It is nigh on impossible to find any statistics comparing men on women DV, and women on men DV. However, I did find this, which is quite interesting.

And if anyone wonders why the statistics reported are always so low for men, this site sums it up pretty well:-

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Why Do We Know So Little About Domestic Abuse And Violence Against Men?

There are many reasons why we don't know more about domestic abuse and violence against men. First of all, the incidence of domestic violence reported men appears to be so low that it is hard to get reliable estimates. In addition, it has taken years of advocacy and support to encourage women to report domestic violence. Virtually nothing has been done to encourage men to report abuse. The idea that men could be victims of domestic abuse and violence is so unthinkable that many men will not even attempt to report the situation.
The trouble is, because of underreporting, and self-interest-advocacy-groups, its hard to find any statistics to truely reflect domestic violence. I find that actually, virtually no statistcs support real life. i.e. Both my grandmothers died before my grandfathers, in my circle of friends at school, during the last year of a-levels, 3 women crashed their cars, compared to 1 guy, despite knowing knowing far less women than men.

Ahh well, some food for thought anyway.
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