benefit tourists

[Flubflow]

Originally Posted by downquark1

Of course if we helped the other countries sort out their economy they wouldn't need to come here.

True. I think they would much prefer not to have to uproot to survive.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

it is very difficult to get one , or at least one that wont rip you off

Don't I know it

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by downquark1

Of course if we helped the other countries sort out their economy they wouldn't need to come here.

If the effing socialists haden't fu*ked them up in the first place we wouldn't have to

[Julian]

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

it is very difficult to get one , or at least one that wont rip you off

Yep and most of them work for themselves. Hence no company will invest in training because the apprentice leaves directly the training is finished to earn £ÃÆ ’‚£Ãà¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚£Ãƒââ‚ ¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚£Ãƒâ€š £ÂÃâ €šÃ‚£Ãƒâ€šÃ‚à ƒâ€šÃ‚£ÃƒÆ’‚ £ÃƒÆ’‚£Ã ƒâ€šÃ‚£Ãà ƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚£'s self employed.

Add to that the very low rates paid to the trainees and there's ya problem.

[Flubflow]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Tried to find a plumber recently?
If I was to re-train I would become a plumber, sparks or chippie, and then go self employed.

Even redundant investment bankers think it is a great idea............
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3011439.stm

[cjay]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Tried to find a plumber recently?
If I was to re-train I would become a plumber, sparks or chippie, and then go self employed.

my mate wants an apprentice to be an electrician, but hes too old now - hes only 24, its stupid, and its like teachers nurses etc i know loads of people that wanted to do one or the other but wouldnt cos of the crappy wages, n now they are importing them from other countries cos there isn't enough.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by cjay

my mate wants an apprentice to be an electrician, but hes too old now - hes only 24, its stupid, and its like teachers nurses etc i know loads of people that wanted to do one or the other but wouldnt cos of the crappy wages, n now they are importing them from other countries cos there isn't enough.

He should keep looking for an opening. I've had two patients who were in their 30's and doing plumbing apprenticeships.

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

He should keep looking for an opening. I've had two patients who were in their 30's and doing plumbing apprenticeships.

exactly , age is not the problem it used to be , has he thought about the armed orces for a trade ?????????????

[cjay]

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

exactly , age is not the problem it used to be , has he thought about the armed orces for a trade ?????????????

thanks, i never thought of that, il pass the msg on, he needs the encouragement!

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by cjay

thanks, i never thought of that, il pass the msg on, he needs the encouragement!

its just a thought but i know if i had not got an apprenticeship i would have gone into the forces , i think it is around 30 years old before you are too old

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

its just a thought but i know if i had not got an apprenticeship i would have gone into the forces , i think it is around 30 years old before you are too old

Depends on the role etc, a guy where I work who has been in the forces, then a reservist is going back into logistics as he has skills they need, probably late 40s.

[cjay]

the armed forces are a wealth of talent, its prob the best way to do most things these days you get paid for being there and you get a free education, just never thought of it in an appretiship type of way. n thats pretty good that you can go into them up until ur 30s/40s.

[downquark1]

Looky here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3515677.stm

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by downquark1

Looky here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3515677.stm

The number of people applying for asylum in the UK in 2003 fell by 41% to 61,050, Home Office figures show.

'Course if I was a pessimist I would say that it just means that illegal immigration is up by 41%

[zoombini]

I'd just say that they have massaged thre figures into someting else.

IMO the british are getting too lazy & as said will not do certain jobs, the younger generations these days just wants to use a computer etc, not dig about in the muck etc.

Perhaps our legal system should force some into hard work, bring back the labour camps for the lazy sods.