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Old 05-01-2004, 21:11   #1
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israel supports ethnic cleansing

a member of the israeli parliment has expressed his wish to 'ethincly cleanse' all non jews in palestine israel

uzi cohen a member of ariel sharons party told a radio station that there is widespread support for ethnic cleansing

“Many people support the idea but few are willing to speak about it publicly.”

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...1EC28F603D.htm
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Re: israel supports ethnic cleansing

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a member of the israeli parliment has expressed his wish to 'ethincly cleanse' all non jews in palestine israel

uzi cohen a member of ariel sharons party told a radio station that there is widespread support for ethnic cleansing

“Many people support the idea but few are willing to speak about it publicly.”

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...1EC28F603D.htm

I wonder where it will all end - if ever
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Re: israel supports ethnic cleansing

If anyone should reject this idea then it is the jewish race looking back at times gone past
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Re: israel supports ethnic cleansing

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a member of the israeli parliment has expressed his wish to 'ethincly cleanse' all non jews in palestine israel

uzi cohen a member of ariel sharons party told a radio station that there is widespread support for ethnic cleansing

“Many people support the idea but few are willing to speak about it publicly.”

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...1EC28F603D.htm
dispicable....ethnic cleansing is not good, it is not right, it is morally a
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Re: israel supports ethnic cleansing

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If anyone should reject this idea then it is the jewish race looking back at times gone past

Indeed!
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Old 05-01-2004, 21:55   #6
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Re: israel supports ethnic cleansing

I can't believe this coming from a Jew. They were victims of it themselves!
*edit* hang on a mo. I noticed that the link is to al-jazeera! this might be what he actually said before al-jazeera got their hands on it!
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Uzi Cohen, a member of Ariel Sharon’s right-wing party, the Likud, has proposed the creation of a Palestinian state in northern Jordan in preparation for the expulsion of all non-Jews from Palestine.

Cohen told the Israeli-state run Radio Sunday that there is widespread support in Israel for “the idea of transfer.” “Many people support the idea (of transferring Arabs out of Palestine), but few are willing to speak about it publicly.
Which is a bit different to what al-jazeera said:
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A member of the Israeli parliament has proposed “massive ethnic cleansing” of non-Jews in Palestine-Israel as a “final solution” of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.



Uzi Cohen, a member of Ariel Sharon’s right-wing Likud party and a deputy in the Knesset, told Israeli public radio on Sunday there was widespread support in Israel for “the idea of ethnic cleansing”.
Thats really irresponsible reporting!
*edit,edit*............sh*t stirrers! (pardon the language)
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Re: israel supports ethnic cleansing

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I can't believe this coming from a Jew. They were victims of it themselves!
*edit* hang on a mo. I noticed that the link is to al-jazeera! this might be what he actually said before al-jazeera got their hands on it!

Which is a bit different to what al-jazeera said:
Thats really irresponsible reporting!

no bias there then
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no bias there then
and my link is also to an Arab news agency. No wonder al-jazeera are bin ladens news agency of choice!
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Re: israel supports ethnic cleansing

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a member of the israeli parliment has expressed his wish to 'ethincly cleanse' all non jews in palestine israel

uzi cohen a member of ariel sharons party told a radio station that there is widespread support for ethnic cleansing

“Many people support the idea but few are willing to speak about it publicly.”

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...1EC28F603D.htm
There's nothing particularly new about such opinions; they've been being made by a number of the more extreme Israelis for a some years now. As far as I recall, 3 of the arguments used are:

1) Jews have a religious claim on the land of Israel. Since the majority of Jews were deported by the Romans following the Jewish War (60s AD) and the Bar Kockba revolt of 135AD, this is taken historical claims to extremes. By this reasoning, the Welsh have a valid claim to most of England.

2) The Arabs have lots of land in which to house evicted Arabs.

3) There weren't all that many Arabs in 19th Century Palestine, so they don't have any more of a valid claim than the Zionist settlers of the late 19th/early 20th Century.

In practice, you can ignore all of the above; Israeli might backed by US support is all that is needed to implement such a policy.
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Re: israel supports ethnic cleansing

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By this reasoning, the Welsh have a valid claim to most of England.

don't tell the welsh assembly that then

or those prats will have you all in ghettos

and will have you wearing the St George flag on your lapels
before you are all 'sent back' LOL


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Re: israel supports ethnic cleansing

So why not forcibly expel israelis out of palestine and back into israel? (the israel that was originally created for them before they started expanding and nicking parts of syria etc)
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So why not forcibly expel israelis out of palestine and back into israel? (the israel that was originally created for them before they started expanding and nicking parts of syria etc)
It does seem logical that the removal of Jews in the Palestinian area back to Israel would be helpful as it would give the Palestinians a degree of security and reduce tensions. The only problem is that the Jews have built their homes and their lives there and will not be recompensed for the effort they have put in, hence their reluctance to leave.

It hasn't helped too that when Israel was within its boundaries, the Arab neighbours around it took it in turns to mount attacks upon it. In effect they caused Israel to expand to preserve its own security.

All the Jews want is some peace and security. They want to know that their neighbours will leave them alone, which is a good idea as when they are forced into battle they usually win.

The only way they will resolve this conflict is by both parties displaying the tolerance of others, which their relative religions promote.
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Re: israel supports ethnic cleansing

Palestinians also have thier homes in the lands that israel has expanded into and have had their homes there a lot longer.
The idea of eviction seems to me to be just a right winger sounding off and trying to justify his beliefs
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Palestinians also have thier homes in the lands that israel has expanded into and have had their homes there a lot longer.
The idea of eviction seems to me to be just a right winger sounding off and trying to justify his beliefs
Yes, it's true that as boundaries have changed both Palestinians and Jews have found themselves in the 'wrong' place.

Must admit that I'd much prefer for re-location to be a voluntary thing as I envisage that a lot of bloodshed could be involved in forceable eviction.

It would be nice if people could see that what they were being asked to do was for the greater good and for long term stability and peace in the region but feelings are running high and common sense, altruism and tolerance do not seem to be there in great abundance.

Given that the conflict was going on in Jesus's time and is still going on now, we can probably expect it to be going on in 2000 years time unless both parties see sense.
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Re: israel supports ethnic cleansing

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I can't believe this coming from a Jew. They were victims of it themselves!
*edit* hang on a mo. I noticed that the link is to al-jazeera! this might be what he actually said before al-jazeera got their hands on it!

Which is a bit different to what al-jazeera said:
Thats really irresponsible reporting!
*edit,edit*............sh*t stirrers! (pardon the language)
If Isreal wants to "remove" a certain race from an area and that race does not have a say in the matter then that is ethic cleansing. So, Al Jazeera's interpretation is correct. I think.
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