Asylum Seekers a wasted talent?

aliferste · 22-12-2003, 18:53

"As Scotland's population plunges and our hospitals struggle with shortages of doctors and nurses... skilled asylum seekers are not allowed to work"

For A while now i have been saying the same thing!

http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/features...name_page.html

**Russ B** · 22-12-2003, 18:55

Well if they are legally entitled to be here, I don't see a problem in them applying for any job.

Sociable · 22-12-2003, 18:59

Very true aliferste and also gives the lie to many views about asylum seekers in general as many would far rather contribute if they were only allowed to do so.

22-12-2003, 19:10

Hahaha always the same

Ramrod · 22-12-2003, 19:14

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Originally Posted by Defiant

Hahaha always the same

No m8, If they are legal then it's a good thing if they are allowed to work and pay taxes. It's the illegals that I have a problem with.

22-12-2003, 19:16

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

No m8, If they are legal then it's a good thing if they are allowed to work and pay taxes. It's the illegals that I have a problem with.

Exactly

aliferste · 22-12-2003, 21:09

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Originally Posted by Defiant

Hahaha always the same

No its not the same.
Its like the first positive article ive seen in a long time to do with those seeking asylum.

23-12-2003, 12:53

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Originally Posted by aliferste

No its not the same.
Its like the first positive article ive seen in a long time to do with those seeking asylum.

Too right, and i hope the people who constantly moan about them taking up or taxes take note of this and realise that if a lot of them were aloud to work and contribute towards the taxes in this country then they would.

Ramrod · 23-12-2003, 12:59

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Originally Posted by col d

Too right, and i hope the people who constantly moan about them taking up or taxes take note of this and realise that if a lot of them were aloud to work and contribute towards the taxes in this country then they would.

The problem that defiant and I have is when we get illegal economic migrants coming in and working in the black economy and not paying taxes.
(at least I think thats defiants beef...)

Escapee · 23-12-2003, 13:01

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Originally Posted by col d

Too right, and i hope the people who constantly moan about them taking up or taxes take note of this and realise that if a lot of them were aloud to work and contribute towards the taxes in this country then they would.

I have nothing against the legal ones who are filling jobs that are unable to be filled by people born and bred in this country, many industries have difficulty filling well paid jobs because suitable applicants are just not available.

I always note how people and the government appear to turn a blind eye to all the ones working with fraudulant National Insurance numbers as if it's not happening. The government does not care because tax is being paid and low paid jobs are being filled.

I have been reliably informed that this is a much larger problem than any of us realise.

aliferste · 23-12-2003, 13:38

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

The problem that defiant and I have is when we get illegal economic migrants coming in and working in the black economy and not paying taxes.
(at least I think thats defiants beef...)

Which is why we get so many people coming here from New Zealand and Australia to work.......as it is so easy to get a cash in hand job....they do this for a couple of years and then shoot off back home again!!

basa · 23-12-2003, 13:38

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Originally Posted by Escapee

I have nothing against the legal ones who are filling jobs that are unable to be filled by people born and bred in this country, many industries have difficulty filling well paid jobs because suitable applicants are just not available.

I always note how people and the government appear to turn a blind eye to all the ones working with fraudulant National Insurance numbers as if it's not happening. The government does not care because tax is being paid and low paid jobs are being filled.

I have been reliably informed that this is a much larger problem than any of us realise.

Quite...it is glib to say the ones who can work should be allowed to, but I would also qualify that to add that it must be a job that cannot be filled from local born people. (I appreciate in this case the article is saying just that, but I feel it should always be thus qualified).

I often wonder why there is so much difficulty in recruiting locally ? Is it poor pay or conditions ? Poor infrastructure (housing, facilities etc.) ? Better prospects elsewhere ? Poor local education ? Whatever the reason, is it not possible that even the ex. asylum seeker employees will also in time move on to bigger and better prospects - maybe 'abroad' after enhancing their CV's at our expense ?

Scarlett · 23-12-2003, 13:41

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

The problem that defiant and I have is when we get illegal economic migrants coming in and working in the black economy and not paying taxes.
(at least I think thats defiants beef...)

But would anyone want the jobs that they do ? silver service ? Building sites ? in general the jobs they do are dirty/dangerous and badly underpaid.

aliferste · 23-12-2003, 13:44

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Originally Posted by basa

Whatever the reason, is it not possible that even the ex. asylum seeker employees will also in time move on to bigger and better prospects - maybe 'abroad' after enhancing their CV's at our expense ?

Many of the people that want to work do not need to enhance their cvs. They already have good qualifications and experiance......and are well educated.
Here in Glasgow we have two cancer specialists that cannot work.

Bifta · 23-12-2003, 13:46

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Originally Posted by Scarlett

But would anyone want the jobs that they do ? silver service ? Building sites ? in general the jobs they do are dirty/dangerous and badly underpaid.

Perhaps if the government forced some of the lazy b*stards that sponge their income from the DSS to go out and do these jobs that they're probably perfectly capable of doing then it wouldn't (and shouldn't) be a matter of why would anyone want to do them.