Homes for the "asian community"

[Maggy J]

I KNEW this story would be the subject of a thread here when I heard it on the radio and I knew that it would be along the lines that it has taken.

So you all think white people should have been first in line then?With the asians/others having to wait at the end of the line even if they were born here?Also how many of you NEED a 7 bedroom house?

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

So you all think white people should have been first in line then?With the asians/others having to wait at the end of the line even if they were born here?Also how many of you NEED a 7 bedroom house?

Woah there Coggy, thats generalising a bit about us. Personally, I don't think that the council should even have 7 bedroom houses to give to anyone, black, brown, white or green.......lets face it (and now I'm generalising) the majority of people who have that number of kids aren't in gainful employment (because most of us with our own houses can't afford houses that big or that many kids) and therefore people not in gainful employment have no business having that many kids since the state has to pay for them.

[Maggy J]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Woah there Coggy, thats generalising a bit about us. Personally, I don't think that the council should even have 7 bedroom houses to give to anyone, black, brown, white or green.......lets face it (and now I'm generalising) the majority of people who have that number of kids aren't in gainful employment (because most of us with our own houses can't afford houses that big or that many kids) and therefore people not in gainful employment have no business having that many kids since the state has to pay for them.

Rammy I actually listened to the Radio interview and this family are a working family.They are paying their way in life and merely wanted to spread out in a family home that would suit them.They are not the usual chavs who only have children just to get more benefits or a bigger house.

I personally subscribe to the idea of smaller families BUT I will defend to the death the freedom of anyone to have as many children as they like PROVIDED they can care for them and there is no neglect.There are such families you know.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

I personally subscribe to the idea of smaller families BUT I will defend to the death the freedom of anyone to have as many children as they like PROVIDED they can care for them and there is no neglect.There are such families you know.

Should part of that care be ensuring that you can afford a house of a suitable size for your family, and not increasing your family beyond your means?

[arcamalpha2004]

Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

'for the asian community' sounds pretty racist to me.

So what is the alternative?
Should the story be reported " For the X community "
Too pc this country.

[Damien]

it was not FOR them, it was designed witht hem in mind. The houses were on offer to all. Not just Asians

[arcamalpha2004]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

Rammy I actually listened to the Radio interview and this family are a working family.They are paying their way in life and merely wanted to spread out in a family home that would suit them.They are not the usual chavs who only have children just to get more benefits or a bigger house.

I personally subscribe to the idea of smaller families BUT I will defend to the death the freedom of anyone to have as many children as they like PROVIDED they can care for them and there is no neglect.There are such families you know.

I would agree but add " so long as they can pay for them "
What is it with the idea now that it is so ok not to work for years, not because youre unfit, although you can be fit enough to parent kids! and not contribute to the financial cost of bringing kids up, and whats more, they carry on having kid after kid knowing too well there is no way they are ever going to work, why the **** should I pay for them?

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Originally Posted by Damien

it was not FOR them, it was designed witht hem in mind. The houses were on offer to all. Not just Asians

Hold on damien it was not for them? but with them in mind?
The mind does boggle now

[me283]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

Rammy I actually listened to the Radio interview and this family are a working family.They are paying their way in life and merely wanted to spread out in a family home that would suit them.They are not the usual chavs who only have children just to get more benefits or a bigger house.

I personally subscribe to the idea of smaller families BUT I will defend to the death the freedom of anyone to have as many children as they like PROVIDED they can care for them and there is no neglect.There are such families you know.

If they are paying their way, why do they need council housing? I always thought that such housing was heavily subsidised? And who the Hell is going to subsidise me to live a better life than I can afford now?!

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Originally Posted by Damien

I hate Galloway, hes a tosspot. Spends little time doing his job and more time blaming America and Blair for Israel, 9/11, 7/7 and everything else whereas everyone else is misunderstood or justifyed.

But I am not saying they are good, i am say the BNP are not. What I said is true about the BNP and that doesnt go away because people dislike others more.

Strange though, that every time the BNP is mentioned you go on about what they've done "wrong", like they are the only ones to do so...

[Damien]

The way the topic was brought up it sounded like these were homes for asians. They were not, they are Muslim friendly but not in a big way or a way to exclude anyone else.

[arcamalpha2004]

Originally Posted by Damien

The way the topic was brought up it sounded like these were homes for asians. They were not, they are Muslim friendly but not in a big way or a way to exclude anyone else.

Fine, but why use the wording " muslim friendly? "
If the wording was " white friendly " there would be uproar!

[Damien]

muslim and white is different. All they did was take in mind the local population and made adjustments to the houses they were building to take in mind the likely users.

[arcamalpha2004]

Originally Posted by Damien

muslim and white is different. All they did was take in mind the local population and made adjustments to the houses they were building to take in mind the likely users.

So, the " likely " users were " likely " to be asian?
But why say they were not built with asians in mind?
You have to appreciate and in a way admire the way asian families do things, they will occupy a house big enough for their needs until each individual has saved enough capital to go their own way, they all chip in for the expenses of the bigger home knowing in time they will have their own car and home, this has happened for years, it is nothing new, just that councils have seen an opportunity

[SMG]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Our local news prog in London ran a story yesterday about the overcrowding that asian families have to endure in council accommodation here. They showed how children were sharing bedrooms and beds. It occurred to me that perhaps they should limit the number of kids they are having if they don't have the space for them rather than bleat at the council about lack of space.....am I wrong?

Interesting theory. How could we limit the number. Castration, steralisation, police enforcement, abortion, finance, sh*t m8, I couldnt count the number of cans of worms that question would open. The human rights brigades birthdays would all come at once.

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by SMG

Interesting theory. How could we limit the number. Castration, steralisation, police enforcement, abortion, finance, sh*t m8, I couldnt count the number of cans of worms that question would open. The human rights brigades birthdays would all come at once.

No, but the council can turn around and say "Sorry, a 4 bedroom house is the largest we have, take it or leave it"

The Asian way of life as put in another post, happens in Asia because there is no such thing as government handouts. In this country they "usually" buy a big house for all the family to squeeze into, to centralise all their money in one pot. For the council to build big houses to suit there culture is unbelievable, that is letting them use the parts of our culture that are convenient as an add on to their own.

The Asian idea of all the money in a pot mainly stems from Pakistan, thats why we had so much problems getting the Paakistanis to work in my last place of employment. "I can only work 30 hours a week for religious reasons" and "No I cannot stay and work on a minute longer to help get this important job out the door"

Religion was not the reason, the reason was anything they earned went into the pot to be shared by all the family. These guys didn't want to work overtime and share it amongst the members of the family who were too lazy to work.

It seems somewhat ironic that the council is funding housing for people with this attitude and culture, when they themsleves are unwilling to work a minute longer than they need to put their x amount in the pot.

[Damien]

Originally Posted by SMG

Interesting theory. How could we limit the number. Castration, steralisation, police enforcement, abortion, finance, sh*t m8, I couldnt count the number of cans of worms that question would open. The human rights brigades birthdays would all come at once.

and quite rightly