Homes for the "asian community"

[punky]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Our local news prog in London ran a story yesterday about the overcrowding that asian families have to endure in council accommodation here. They showed how children were sharing bedrooms and beds. It occurred to me that perhaps they should limit the number of kids they are having if they don't have the space for them rather than bleat at the council about lack of space.....am I wrong?

Nope... However, having children is a right enshrined under the European Convention on Human Rights, so any such suggestions that maybe parents shouldn't have children if they can't support them, means you are made out to be some kind of facist anti-humanitarian monster...

I do think its odd that the Methodist housing association developed housing specifically for non-Methodists. PR stunt to show Methodism isn't equivilent to some other religions maybe?

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

If this was catholic families we were talking about my opinion would be the same.....If you can't afford to have that many children then don't have them.....imo.

That's rare - in a thread like this, I actually agree with someone

[Vlad_Dracul]

Originally Posted by Damien

The houses in that story were replacing existing ones in the community. Also they were still made avaibile to everyone else.

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Also, it looks like they are not council houses (i.e not free)

Nothing is free,not even council houses. It is fact that council housing largely no longer exists and in the near future, will be totally eradicated. Councils no longer want to manage social housing. All the new stuff is built and operated by private organisations/housing associations etc. Much of existing council housing stock has been transferred to housing associations/arms length management companies. Cheap council house rents are a thing of the past. The rents are closer to market rate. Many people living in such houses rely totally or partially on benefit of one kind or another. It follows then that a greater chunk of state cash is flowing through to private enterprise where,in the past,it just used to flow to local authorities. No wonder then, that they can splurge on builidng nice new expensive homes. Presumably if an ethinc group which temded to have smaller families applied for one of these 7 bed mansions, they would be turned down on grounds of under occupancy. They are hardly going to let out a house to mr and mrs average 2.4 kids if most of it is left emplty. Who does that leave then? why of course,groups who have larger families.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by punky

Nope... However, having children is a right enshrined under the European Convention on Human Rights,

Thats just nuts!

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Our local news prog in London ran a story yesterday about the overcrowding that asian families have to endure in council accommodation here. They showed how children were sharing bedrooms and beds. It occurred to me that perhaps they should limit the number of kids they are having if they don't have the space for them rather than bleat at the council about lack of space.....am I wrong?

No! You are so totally and utterly ****ing right!!!!!! I get so ****ed off with parents who think society owes them a living and relative luxures because they have children.

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Thats just nuts!

I think you'll find that nuts are what's causing the problem

[punky]

Originally Posted by Nugget

I think you'll find that nuts are what's causing the problem

[jtwn]

But then its the age old case of religion (and traditions I guess) being put before reality. One child policy anybody?

Nah, I do believe that people should live within their means and if that means can afford to then fine but the screb ends of society seems to think that that includes the state aswell.

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by jtwn

But then its the age old case of religion (and traditions I guess) being put before reality. One child policy anybody?

Nah, I do believe that people should live within their means and if that means can afford to then fine but the screb ends of society seems to think that that includes the state aswell.

So many times I have made my view clear about only having children if you can afford them. I have in the past made my views clear that family allowance, tax credits or any other cr*p like that should be abolished.

If you cant afford them you need to either wear a condom, take a pill, keep it in your trousers or get rid of it.

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by Escapee

So many times I have made my view clear about only having children if you can afford them. I have in the past made my views clear that family allowance, tax credits or any other cr*p like that should be abolished.

If you cant afford them you need to either wear a condom, take a pill, keep it in your trousers or get rid of it.

[Stuart C]

Originally Posted by dooper786

(1) The popular myth is that single mothers only exist amongst our own
white trash

I don't think I know anyone that assumes that only "white trash" are single mothers. Just go round Woolwich for proof that they aren't.

(2) Why is it that everyone else has a "community" and "community leaders"
but the indigenous population don't?. I use the term indigenous merely as a point of reference and i appreciate that there are also non whites and whites of other ethnic backgrounds who are indigenous

There are probably many reasons for this. The simplist one being that (in my experience) those races that have communities bother to set one up and maintain it. Those that don't have communities haven't bothered. For instance, in my road, we used to have quite an active community amongst the neighbours, but most of them moved away. Now, I bearly know most of my neighbours.

(c)If a white single mother from Oldham was given a nice new seven bed
home she would be on the front page of the Daily Mail and all the red
tops being slagged off so why not in this case?

You appear to be implying that the Mail is being politically correct. If you are, you don't seem to have read it. The Mail usually does carry stories like this, and frequently blames immigrants for things even if they aren't directly involved.

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Originally Posted by Escapee

So many times I have made my view clear about only having children if you can afford them. I have in the past made my views clear that family allowance, tax credits or any other cr*p like that should be abolished.

If you cant afford them you need to either wear a condom, take a pill, keep it in your trousers or get rid of it.

Agreed.

[me283]

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

HArd to believe when you voted for the BNP :S

Ah yes, tehe old "BNP supporters have no worthy opinion" approach. How kind of you to only pick up on that one point.

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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

'for the asian community' sounds pretty racist to me.

Couldn't agree more.

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Originally Posted by Damien

Since the election one of the BNP counciller failed to vote for his own policy because he didnt know how too. Another one has not turned up to a council meeting.

The BNP are racist, the BBC even had a tape of a BNP meeting where the speaker was, to loud approval, telling africans to go back to africa. Also the guy who said to sky news that black people have never achived anything

What parts of those are not racist? And dont tell me the media twisted it. The council keep records and the video was clearly in context, where as the last guy actually said it to sky news when being interviewed.

Also the media mays be bias but the BNP site is hardly gonna be impartial is it?

Damien, this is all tired rhetoric. Shall we look at incidences where Labour councillors have been stupid/irresponsible/corrupt? Or how about picking on George Galloway?

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by me283

Ah yes, tehe old "BNP supporters have no worthy opinion" approach. How kind of you to only pick up on that one point.

In fairness, BNP do have a worthy opinion - it's the people who voted for them who should receive a ding around the head

[me283]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Our local news prog in London ran a story yesterday about the overcrowding that asian families have to endure in council accommodation here. They showed how children were sharing bedrooms and beds. It occurred to me that perhaps they should limit the number of kids they are having if they don't have the space for them rather than bleat at the council about lack of space.....am I wrong?

I agree with your point, but let's be honest, they don't have to endure overcrowding in council homes... they could go out and buy/rent a better sized home, just like the rest of us. However, it's easier to bleat that they are being hard done by, then have the council sort out their living arrangements for them.

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Originally Posted by punky

Well, when reports like this come to light, its hard to blame people who think the BNP is the only escape from this.

I've never voted BNP (see my signature which has remained fair consistent for.. oooh... 3 years give or take) However, if I am being forced to become a second class citizen in my own country I will take action.

I'd either:

1) Move out... something my family have done, and has rewarded them handsomely.

2) Support the party who I think will redress the balance and make sure I (i.e. white male 18-65) am treated fairly and equivilently with other ethic groups.

In fairness, I think that's a fine post, even by your exceedingly high standards Punky.

[Damien]

Damien, this is all tired rhetoric. Shall we look at incidences where Labour councillors have been stupid/irresponsible/corrupt? Or how about picking on George Galloway?

I hate Galloway, hes a tosspot. Spends little time doing his job and more time blaming America and Blair for Israel, 9/11, 7/7 and everything else whereas everyone else is misunderstood or justifyed.

But I am not saying they are good, i am say the BNP are not. What I said is true about the BNP and that doesnt go away because people dislike others more.