11-07-2006, 00:53
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What's YOUR View....???
Having had a very interesting conversation with a friend of mine, he came out with the following statement.....
" The day when the world comes to realise that you can live a good life without following a load of crap written thousands of years ago by people who nobody can prove ever existed is the day when we can aim for world peace. "
Obviously, we were talking about Religion here, but what are YOUR views on his statement???
In my opinion, I just don't think we'll ever see World Peace anyway. Times have changed so much that it'll just never happen.
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11-07-2006, 00:59
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Re: What's YOUR View....???
I am not religious but if people want to be religious that is their choice.
When religious people try to enforce their beliefs upon others I am annoyed and angry.
When non-religious people try to enforce their beliefs upon others I am annoyed and angry.
Your friend is entitled to their opinions but comments like 'load of crap' is no different to religious people banging on about how everyone should convert and if you dont believe then you should 'die'.
Yes its true these days religion is blamed for so much but is religion truely at fault or is it indeed an easy excuse? There wil always be conflict in life, there will always be war and there will always be neadless deaths. Religion or no religion, people will fight - human beings are driven by success and power and money and greed. World Peace is all but a fairy tale.
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11-07-2006, 01:04
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Re: What's YOUR View....???
Nice one sarah
Russ ain't biting today, however I'm sure the usual suspects will.
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11-07-2006, 01:06
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Re: What's YOUR View....???
I don't think we'll ever see world peace either. There's far too many people out there who think differently to everyone else - it's just what makes people "human".
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11-07-2006, 01:12
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Re: What's YOUR View....???
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Originally Posted by Acathla
I am not religious but if people want to be religious that is their choice.
When religious people try to enforce their beliefs upon others I am annoyed and angry.
When non-religious people try to enforce their beliefs upon others I am annoyed and angry.
Your friend is entitled to their opinions but comments like 'load of crap' is no different to religious people banging on about how everyone should convert and if you dont believe then you should 'die'.
Yes its true these days religion is blamed for so much but is religion truely at fault or is it indeed an easy excuse? There wil always be conflict in life, there will always be war and there will always be neadless deaths. Religion or no religion, people will fight - human beings are driven by success and power and money and greed. World Peace is all but a fairy tale.
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I couldn't agree more with what you have said here. I myself am stuck in the middle. I was bought up a Christian, have been baptized and confirmed but as I get older I seem to question more and more. I guess things like The Da Vinci Code intrigue me.....
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11-07-2006, 01:14
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Re: What's YOUR View....???
why can't we have world peace, based on how we feel now, without having to define it in religious terms.
like, er, starting now, stop fighting - mark :now
- there you go, sorted..
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11-07-2006, 01:18
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Re: What's YOUR View....???
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Originally Posted by homealone
why can't we have world peace, based on how we feel now, without having to define it in religious terms.
like, er, starting now, stop fighting - mark :now
- there you go, sorted..
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If only it was that simple....
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11-07-2006, 01:21
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Re: What's YOUR View....???
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Originally Posted by sarahlouise45
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Originally Posted by homealone
why can't we have world peace, based on how we feel now, without having to define it in religious terms.
like, er, starting now, stop fighting - mark :now
- there you go, sorted..
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If only it was that simple.... 
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it is that simple, the problem is that not everyone realises
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11-07-2006, 01:23
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Originally Posted by homealone
it is that simple, the problem is that not everyone realises 
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That's why it's not simple...!!!
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11-07-2006, 01:25
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Originally Posted by sarahlouise45
I couldn't agree more with what you have said here. I myself am stuck in the middle. I was bought up a Christian, have been baptized and confirmed but as I get older I seem to question more and more. I guess things like The Da Vinci Code intrigue me.....
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The questions are good.
A lot of children are brought into religion and grow up not really knowing any different. Adulthood gives us all an oportunity to question life, existence and purpose. This is what makes us strong and human.
It can turn out any way you make it - and noone should be afraid of making a decision. You may decide to leave christianity behind you, your faith may get stronger or something else may happen but without questions and knowledge then are we not just followers?
Being human is a wonderful thing - the choice to be individual. To believe what we want, to go where we choose. Everyone should be allowed to experience life regardless of where we are born or brought up.
It's a shame this is not always the case
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11-07-2006, 01:25
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Re: What's YOUR View....???
If there were nothing for us to fight over, we'd fight over having nothing to fight over! same if i had nothing to worry about, i'd worry about having nothing to worry about.
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11-07-2006, 01:27
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Re: What's YOUR View....???
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Originally Posted by Dodger444
If there were nothing for us to fight over, we'd fight over having nothing to fight over! same if i had nothing to worry about, i'd worry about having nothing to worry about. 
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I'm concerned your worried about fighting over nothing to fight for. Trust me there is nothing to be worried about
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11-07-2006, 01:27
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Re: What's YOUR View....???
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Originally Posted by Acathla
The questions are good.
A lot of children are brought into religion and grow up not really knowing any different. Adulthood gives us all an oportunity to question life, existence and purpose. This is what makes us strong and human.
It can turn out any way you make it - and noone should be afraid of making a decision. You may decide to leave christianity behind you, your faith may get stronger or something else may happen but without questions and knowledge then are we not just followers?
Being human is a wonderful thing - the choice to be individual. To believe what we want, to go where we choose. Everyone should be allowed to experience life regardless of where we are born or brought up.
It's a shame this is not always the case 
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Well said. Once again, I couldn't agree more...  
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11-07-2006, 01:29
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Re: What's YOUR View....???
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Originally Posted by homealone
it is that simple, the problem is that not everyone realises 
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That's why it's not simple...!!! 
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which is why we are talking about it
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11-07-2006, 01:31
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Re: What's YOUR View....???
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Originally Posted by Dodger444
If there were nothing for us to fight over, we'd fight over having nothing to fight over! same if i had nothing to worry about, i'd worry about having nothing to worry about. 
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Again, something that makes us all human. And you have to agree, we do worry too much sometimes, but, if we had NOTHING to worry about, would life be boring????
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