Plot to kidnap Leo Blair

Damien · 17-01-2006, 23:37

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...495008,00.html

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The plan is alleged to have involved extremists sympathisers with the Fathers 4 Justice campaigning group.
According to the Sun newspaper, the intention was to snatch Leo, the Blairs' youngest son, and hold him hostage to highlight the plight of fathers denied access to their children.
Officers from Special Branch apparently stumbled across the plot while investigating individuals on the fringe of the Fathers 4 Justice group, who have previously carried out a number of high-profile stunts to publicise their cause.

I dont care what their motives were. This is a appaling thing to do

**Russ B** · 17-01-2006, 23:40

If that turns out to be true then I'll publically withdraw all my previous support for F4J.

17-01-2006, 23:41

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Originally Posted by Damien

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...495008,00.html

I dont care what their motives were. This is a appalling thing to do

I class them just below a terrorists simple as that.

etccarmageddon · 17-01-2006, 23:43

er if this is true then that makes them terrorists by default in my opinion.

Damien · 17-01-2006, 23:44

Remember all we know is that these are people who sympathise with the F4J , we do not actually know if they were part of the group.

17-01-2006, 23:47

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Originally Posted by Damien

Remember all we know is that these are people who sympathise with the F4J , we do not actually know if they were part of the group.

F4J have been getting more radical each time they do a stunt. It will not be long before they do something that gets someone hurt or killed.

There is no way they will own up to this simply on the grounds that they have been rumbled.

Halcyon · 17-01-2006, 23:49

Thats true what you say Damien. We need to know a bit more on all this.
Snatching a kid is an awful thing to do, whoever it is. Whoever came up with the idea for this kidnap attempt must be crazy.

**Russ B** · 17-01-2006, 23:50

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Originally Posted by Halcyon

Whoever came up with the idea for this kidnap attempt must be crazy.

Crazy for coming up with it or crazy for thinking they'd get away with it?

Damien · 17-01-2006, 23:52

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Originally Posted by Bill C

F4J have been getting more radical each time they do a stunt. It will not be long before they do something that gets someone hurt or killed.

There is no way they will own up to this now they have been rumbled

I agree that it could easily be them, and I also doubt that they would own up to it. But i do think that we need to know more, anyone can do something 'in the name of' or 'in support of' a group. That does not mean it was condoned or ordered or even known about by that group

The police will see if there was a connection,

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Originally Posted by Russ D

Crazy for coming up with it or crazy for thinking they'd get away with it?

Surely both?

etccarmageddon · 17-01-2006, 23:58

it's sick and to put a child through that... surely would leave an emotional scar.

Nidge · 18-01-2006, 05:06

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Originally Posted by Russ D

If that turns out to be true then I'll publically withdraw all my previous support for F4J.

I withdrew my support for them when Trevor Macdonald exposed them last year, up until then I was all for them.

Damien · 18-01-2006, 09:02

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Originally Posted by Nidge

I withdrew my support for them when Trevor Macdonald exposed them last year, up until then I was all for them.

What did they do?

NitroNutter · 18-01-2006, 10:18

Its surprising what extreme measures some will go to, and I am not just nessecarily talking about the F4J group or their extreme sympathisers.
Very easy way to kill a group who doesnt have to much power is find a way to remove any grounds for public support for said group.

Child snatching is wrong for any reason, the problem with it is, perpetrators of this nature are cowards and dont have the beaf to confront the
adults they want to affect.

My eldest was snatched once but foiled in the process. The second attempt was very poorly planned and futile and they ran off in the end. It doesnt take much in the way of commercial success to become a target for this kind of crime, I really am not surprised that a plot for it has been uncovered, there is probably 100 or even a 1000 more thinking along similar lines out there right now, and not just for the PM's children either.

Ramrod · 18-01-2006, 10:28

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Originally Posted by NitroNutter

My eldest was snatched once but foiled in the process. The second attempt was very poorly planned and futile and they ran off in the end. It doesnt take much in the way of commercial success to become a target for this kind of crime

wtf......why were they after him?

Hom3r · 18-01-2006, 11:27

I strongly doubt that the regular members of F4J are behind this, as news report suggest it extremist exmembers

I would have a guess the F4J are as angery as the rest of us.