Govenrment proposes reform of prostitution laws

[NitroNutter]

For Pros

But Blair himself backs Kelly's and her departments decisions on certain sex offenders teaching our children.

Of course its common sense really. Why permit people to make money from sex when they can permit those in need to abuse their animal instincts get it for free.

No government has any public interest at heart, they are all there for their own good and nothing more. This is why when the polls come up for many there is none with a lesser evil, they are all as bad as each other.

Expect other goods of a sexual nature to be next, chat lines, TV channels , web sites etc. They are all a form of prostitution.

[BBKing]

Leaving apart the sex-offenders-in-schools flap (which is a lot less serious than it's been made out), the prostitution crackdown is presumably another great initiative that'll be forgotten soon. Most prostitution isn't on-street anyway, and it's perfectly legal (advertising for prostitution is, though). IIRC kerb-crawling is illegal already.

[Chris]

Thread title altered ... the BBC's angle on the story, for starters, couldn't be more different than 'zero tolerance crackdown. Try:

New law to permit small brothels.

Just goes to show what a wide-ranging issue this is. And how emotionally charged. Something that has me very worried is this little pronouncement from Fiona McTaggart of the Home Office:

Home Office minister Fiona Mactaggart has previously compared kerb-crawlers with child abusers.


"I don't think most men who use prostitutes think of themselves as child abusers, but they are," she told the Observer newspaper on Sunday.



"It could change things if we changed the view of prostitution from 'it's the oldest profession' to 'this is the most common form of child abuse'."


And Ms Mactaggart told the BBC last month prostitution was "a form of child abuse" as most women started being prostitutes at age 13 or 14.

For the second time this week I find myself thinking of Brass Eye's 'controversial' paedophile special. It contained a sequence in which a man was condemned as a paedophile for having sex with a woman because 'she was once only 13 years old' (almost certainly misquoting, but you get the idea).


Now, whatever you think about prostitution per se, surely it does nothing to enhance the debate if we go off and accuse the men who visit adult prostitutes of being child abusers, because some prostitutes (even perhaps the one they are visiting) started out when they were children? That just sounds to me like hysteria, scaremongering and demonising.


It's worrying because if McTaggart thinks she has a good case for what she believes, she should not need to resort to these tactics to win support.

We should be introducing a licenced system.

Taking prostitution off the streets and making the whole thing safer for the women and the men that employ them.

[BBKing]

Cableforum board member BBKing has previously compared Home Office Ministers to maggots


"I don't think most Home Office Ministers think of themselves as maggots, but they are," he told anyone who'd listen.

What rot these morons talk. Prostitution is legal and should remain so. Punitive measures against clients make things worse, because there's more risk involved (only the nutters stay around, and the girls take more risks because there's less money to go round). Supply and demand. Regulate it, tax it, help the vulnerable and those forced into it out of it and stop coming over all Victorian (an era when men made pious pronouncements in the morning and visited child brothels in the evening).

[luftys]

and I bet it will put the price up now I wont get any change out off a £1

[punky]

Originally Posted by BBKing

Leaving apart the sex-offenders-in-schools flap (which is a lot less serious than it's been made out),

Yeah, you're right. Paedophiles working in schools is hardly something to get wound up about...

Prostitution, and the way its sold should be legalised. How can it be illegal in the first place? How can it be illegal to sell something that's perfectly legal to give away? The fact that its illegal causes most of the problems. Legalise it, get the people indoors where they are safe & secure and get some tax money into the government.

One thing that's bloody stupid though... Why only maximum of 3 prostitutes per place? What difference does that make?

[Xaccers]

3 women service fewer customers than say 10.
Fewer customers means fewer problems for the girls and the other residents.

[Angua]

At the end of the day, legalising the system "should" save on police resources, reduce pimps, enable PAYE, allow medical safety checks and reduce drug fueled prostitution.

We can but hope!

[BBKing]

You could probably do a double-whammy and legalise drugs at the same time - the only people who wouldn't like it would be dealers and pimps, and I'm quite keen to **** off people like that.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by BBKing

You could probably do a double-whammy and legalise drugs at the same time - the only people who wouldn't like it would be dealers and pimps, and I'm quite keen to **** off people like that.

I don't know, the medicial profession might have something to say about it - would legalising substances like heroin and crack really serve to reduce their use? Sounds like a neat way to cripple the NHS to me. Or is there a well-disgusied note of irony in your post that I jst totally missed?

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Chris T

I don't know, the medicial profession might have something to say about it - would legalising substances like heroin and crack really serve to reduce their use? Sounds like a neat way to cripple the NHS to me. Or is there a well-disgusied note of irony in your post that I jst totally missed?

As I understand, the health risks from heroin (without contaminants, and excluding OD) are relatively small. When administered properly (e.g. known addicts get prescribed heroin, clean needles etc.), the additional cost to the NHS may be small compared to the savings in terms of crime, and the health costs associated with heroin bought on the street.

[Escapee]

Escapee shakes hos head and wonders what these sad people who have to pay for it are like!

They should come along to my local on a saturday, there's always plenty on offer for free.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Escapee

Escapee shakes hos head and wonders what these sad people who have to pay for it are like!

They should come along to my local on a saturday, there's always plenty on offer for free.

What? Heroin?

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by danielf

What? Heroin?

No, I thought the thread was about changes to the prostitution laws.