Boris: Billions of pounds of public money should be used to pay for more roads and ..

[mertle]

infrastructure

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/j...ne-rebuke.html

You cant argue this build the building blocks to raise from ashes.

Aha but people say this labour spend money we aint got. Problem is where its spent is the key.

Dont like the idea osbourne come up spending into housing its dead money all it does is actually create new housing bubble. If it goes in to council home rental you get idiot government down the road sell it off on some stupid right to buy programme.

What we need to do is spend it where it will make difference. If anything new roads. I hope this dont mean negleting the north. Infact majority should be spent in the north possible factory/office outlets for small businesses rental. One area would consider coupled with programme to create new entenprateers(spelling sorry head still not well)

We need to start building new generation businesses which will create jobs. Small medium and large maybe building the structures then renting them might be better plan than housing programme.

If we concentrate high unemployment create skills shortage programme which businesses can subscribe part fund with govenment. We attack the areas where we need the education with proper aprenticeships skill programme.

Centrally funded with enteprise and government

New avenue for government raise fundings would consider government to get involved directly in loans/rental market.

If we think outside the box we can turn things.

It will take like boris says money but also my idea would raise capital for future generations. Create vibrant economy with barren riches of skilled labour.

[Will21st]

Originally Posted by mertle

infrastructure

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/j...ne-rebuke.html

You cant argue this build the building blocks to raise from ashes.

Aha but people say this labour spend money we aint got. Problem is where its spent is the key.

Dont like the idea osbourne come up spending into housing its dead money all it does is actually create new housing bubble. If it goes in to council home rental you get idiot government down the road sell it off on some stupid right to buy programme.

What we need to do is spend it where it will make difference. If anything new roads. I hope this dont mean negleting the north. Infact majority should be spent in the north possible factory/office outlets for small businesses rental. One area would consider coupled with programme to create new entenprateers(spelling sorry head still not well)

We need to start building new generation businesses which will create jobs. Small medium and large maybe building the structures then renting them might be better plan than housing programme.

If we concentrate high unemployment create skills shortage programme which businesses can subscribe part fund with govenment. We attack the areas where we need the education with proper aprenticeships skill programme.

Centrally funded with enteprise and government

New avenue for government raise fundings would consider government to get involved directly in loans/rental market.

If we think outside the box we can turn things.

It will take like boris says money but also my idea would raise capital for future generations. Create vibrant economy with barren riches of skilled labour.

Oh look,another socialist wet dream thread from mertle...

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Will21st

Oh look,another socialist wet dream thread from mertle...

Be it a socialists thread or right wing thread they are just as bad as each other in my mind as people are obsessed with scoring political points off each other.

[Will21st]

Originally Posted by denphone

Be it a socialists thread or right wing thread they are just as bad as each other in my mind as people are obsessed with scoring political points off each other.

Doesn't change the fact he posts an extraordinary amount of his left-wing propaganda on here.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Will21st

Doesn't change the fact he posts an extraordinary amount of his left-wing propaganda on here.

Oh l know but we live in the land of free speech so everybody has a right to their own opinion whether we agree with it or not.

[Hugh]

What's a "new generation business"?

[mertle]

Originally Posted by Will21st

Doesn't change the fact he posts an extraordinary amount of his left-wing propaganda on here.

Well the fact boris is conservative may be the next conservative leader.

ok then clever clogs whats your solution.

How do we create infrastructure and skilled workforce to meet modern needs.

[Damien]

mertle why do you post everything with multiple lines? Are you posting via a Telegram? I keep reading it as if it were written in verse...

[Will21st]

Originally Posted by mertle

Well the fact boris is conservative may be the next conservative leader.

ok then clever clogs whats your solution.

How do we create infrastructure and skilled workforce to meet modern needs.

Well,thank you for your compliment,although I'm not that clever.

Infrastructure is a vital investment and I do believe we should be doing more about it.
I've said before HS2,new runways at Heathrow and Gatwick as well as the Thames Estuary Airport are all infrastructure projects that should be green-lit,imo.

A skilled workforce is another matter entirely,I'd like to see more vocational courses and fewer Mickey Mouse degrees amongst other measures.
However the skilled workforce and infrastructure isn't really what you were on about,was it?

You wrote about business being created by the government,Westminster getting involved in loans and the rental market... which is something I don't support!

Originally Posted by Hugh

What's a "new generation business"?

Something only the government can create!

[mertle]

Originally Posted by Will21st

Well,thank you for your compliment,although I'm not that clever.

Infrastructure is a vital investment and I do believe we should be doing more about it.
I've said before HS2,new runways at Heathrow and Gatwick as well as the Thames Estuary Airport are all infrastructure projects that should be green-lit,imo.

A skilled workforce is another matter entirely,I'd like to see more vocational courses and fewer Mickey Mouse degrees amongst other measures.
However the skilled workforce and infrastructure isn't really what you were on about,was it?

You wrote about business being created by the government,Westminster getting involved in loans and the rental market... which is something I don't support!



Something only the government can create!

thanks for the better reply agree with many your comments.

The training system appalling dont meet modern needs governments always used politics points instead what really needed. I also think career paths badly set by this country we tend to get useless degrees or over subscribed qualified fields.

We have number international airports under used throught the country better structured airport system needed. I find it crazy people travel 300 miles to airports when 50 miles away there is one. Seems strange way travelling.

Maybe we should have better interconecting service to regional airports not cost any more to the final destionation as if they flown from london area airports.. With some those regional airports having destinations too. Integrating airports should be way forth.

We need to utilise the sytem to full potential. Only when its maxed out do we need consider new airports. Personally dont see just yet we need new airports.

On road s our motorway system looks rather daft to main north south artieries with areas not even linked.

To solve gaps I do think norfolk southern lincolnshire needs motorway corridor think upgrading A17, A47 cant come quicker. Eliviate bottlenecks open up investments. Some sections have been dueled but still got alot single carriage sections.

There other areas likely needs intergrating too that way in time we should cover most major towns/cities.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by mertle

Dont like the idea osbourne come up spending into housing its dead money all it does is actually create new housing bubble.

Begging your pardon, but you're getting your market forces back to front. Increasing supply doesn't inflate prices, it depresses them. Housing is ridiculously expensive in the UK because there aren't enough of them. Increasing the housing stock would cause prices to ease over time.

Of course, build too much and you can indeed cause a disaster, such as in Spain where new house-building outstripped demand 3 to 1, leading to colossal bank loans the builders couldn't repay, leading to Spanish banks needing to be bailed out ... But we already have another thread for that.

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Chris

Begging your pardon, but you're getting your market forces back to front. Increasing supply doesn't inflate prices, it depresses them. Housing is ridiculously expensive in the UK because there aren't enough of them. Increasing the housing stock would cause prices to ease over time.

Of course, build too much and you can indeed cause a disaster, such as in Spain where new house-building outstripped demand 3 to 1, leading to colossal bank loans the builders couldn't repay, leading to Spanish banks needing to be bailed out ... But we already have another thread for that.

Its all about getting the right balance, too much of any product drives the selling price down, agreed. However it reaches a point when its not worth producing in UK ( jobs exported ) As with houses to many in the housing stock brings prices down - which becomes negative equity. Lenders simply wont. So sales stagnant. Mortgages are foreclosed on. No I do not have the answer - would be very rich if I did . I do not think throwing "unearned" money at it is the answer however.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Will21st

Doesn't change the fact he posts an extraordinary amount of his left-wing propaganda on here.

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Originally Posted by Damien

mertle why do you post everything with multiple lines? Are you posting via a Telegram? I keep reading it as if it were written in verse...

Why do i feel English is not his or her given language and its so it can be translated back and forth ?

[Chris]

Folks, can we lay off the poster and concentrate on the posted topic please.

[Rob]

There can be little doubt that infrastructure projects have a benefit to the country, short term for the construction jobs, and long term for the use. Trouble is there is little incentive, in our short term government system, for the development of infrastructure. The lead in times to any start of construction is immense so even if the scheme is announced at the beginning of a government term, the construction is lucky to start at the end of it. After all when did planning start for all the Olympics stuff, oh yes under a labour government and mayor, yet the conservatives now reap the real credit (depending on whether or not you support it). London's Crossrail was talked about for years and years before construction finally started. But there are very few of these new schemes, most is tinkering around the edges.

Undoubtedly, especially in the South East, there is a need for increased provision of affordable housing. For a while it seems everyone has relied on the private sector for this, with developers having to set aside ever larger portions of their schemes to affordable schemes which in turn has reduced their ability to build at any profit pricing everyone out of the market. Faffing about with mortgage discount schemes really doesn't solve a problem, it just inflates prices as buyers now have a tad more funding to play with.

Transportation schemes can have great long term benefits. But they are expensive. As much as we'd like them to be funded, the books must still balance so we can't do a lot. Of course a concern must be not just how much it costs to build, but how much money gets wasted by the bloated governmental procurement processes and other legal delaying tactics.