President Obama's healthcare laws upheld by Supreme Court

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Nope still don't get it..Either Congress can make rules/laws or they can't.If they can't who can?

Congress can't make laws that violate the rules in the constitution. The supreme court can strike down any law that does. Until the constitution gets amended.

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In their system the constitution is the highest authority and every branch of government is suppose to enforce "and protect" it. In practice, however, this usually falls to the supreme court.

[Damien]

Thinking about it I can't remember how often the Surpreme Court overturns a law that's already passed though the 3 arms of Government, they are probably quite wary of doing so.

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by Damien

Thinking about it I can't remember how often the Surpreme Court overturns a law that's already passed though the 3 arms of Government, they are probably quite wary of doing so.

Well the 3 arms of government are probably wary of passing laws that would just get struck down.

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

I've read this thread and the articles and I still can't see what the hell they are all arguing about..

Being told what to do . Both the people & the insurers. In a lot of cases neither want it. Clearly not all . Insurers have to take "sick" people - poor people have to pay instead of using "free " hospitals . People paying, see premiums raising to cover extra costs

[Damien]

Originally Posted by Itshim

Being told what to do . Both the people & the insurers. In a lot of cases neither want it. Clearly not all . Insurers have to take "sick" people - poor people have to pay instead of using "free " hospitals . People paying, see premiums raising to cover extra costs

Insurers should have to ensure sick people, it's out of order that someone with pre-existing conditions will have to make a choice between being in massive debt or not getting treatment. Meanwhile young people were often uninsurared because of college and they were no longer allowed to be on their parent's policy so if they got a condition in their late teens or early twenties they could find themselves without medical care for life.

Poor people only have to pay if they can afford it and more of them will suddenly find they have access to more and better healthcare as a result of these changes. The mandate only ensures that people who can afford it pay and therefore don't wait until they are sick before getting insurance. Premiums should go down as a result of these changes as more people are contributing to the pot, and a whole lot of other changes (such as allowing more generic drugs to be made so the cost of them goes down).

[Damien]

http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_new...surance-rebate

The nation’s health insurance companies will refund approximately $1.1 billion dollars to their customers this summer. It’s one of the new benefits of the health care reform law.

But here’s the real game-changer: The 80/20 rule. If the insurance company spends less than 80 percent of premiums on medical care it must rebate the excess. For large group plans (the kind provided by companies that employ 50 people or more), health insurance companies must spend 85 percent of the premiums on medical care.