Jimmy Carr tax affairs 'morally wrong' - Cameron

[martyh]

Originally Posted by Russ

The government gets money from people paying tax. That is an unquestionable fact.

If you doubt it then ask yourself what the purpose of tax is.

nobodies denying that Russ .I'm just saying that under the current system of self assessment HMRC are at the mercy of all self employed people as regards raising taxes ,what they should raise and what they do raise are two entirely different things .

[Russ]

Originally Posted by martyh

nobodies denying that Russ .I'm just saying that under the current system of self assessment HMRC are at the mercy of all self employed people as regards raising taxes ,what they should raise and what they do raise are two entirely different things .

Thanks for clarifying a point I wasn't making...

[martyh]

Originally Posted by Russ

Thanks for clarifying a point I wasn't making...

Then maybe you should be a tad clearer about the point you are making

I'm saying that gary was right in that the economy does not know how much it is supposed to have .If all the tax avoidance schemes came to an end and everyone started paying full tax the economy would have a boost but not because it is recovering money it knows it should be getting but isn't ,
hmrc get what they are given not what they think they should get

[Russ]

Originally Posted by martyh

Then maybe you should be a tad clearer about the point you are making

The point I was making was...

One of the ways this country raises money is through people paying tax.

I'm struggling to see how anyone could take more than one very simple and straightforward meaning from that.

[Gary L]

Because I wasn't asking if it's tax that raises money. (we all know that) I was asking what Marty has anwered.

[dave6x]

Originally Posted by Osem

I too feel a tad uncomfortable being lectured on morals by politicians.

Well said!

Remember this is the same bunch of people who think it is OK to to fiddle their expenses then say "oh sorry I got it wrong" and get away with it! If I had fiddled my expenses to the tune of £40000+ as at least one cabinet member did I would have lost my job and faced criminal proceedings, very few of the offending MPs were ever dealt with in a way that justice was seen to be done!!

[Maggy J]

And the mud slinging continues even when it's legal.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18564187

Olympic cyclist Sir Chris Hoy has defended his tax arrangements after it was reported that he received a loan from his own company.
Sir Chris, who is to carry the Olympic flame in Manchester, said neither he nor his company disguised remuneration.
He also said he takes his responsibilities as a taxpayer "as seriously as I do as an athlete".
The 36-year-old said: "Everything I have done is as a UK resident, and is UK taxable and not offshore."

Someone has opened a whole can of worms..

[Maggy J]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18569728

It's a truism that even bad publicity is better than no publicity.

Viewing figures for Jimmy Carr's Channel 4 show 8 Out of 10 Cats received a boost on Friday following the furore over his tax affairs.
An average 2.5 million viewers tuned in to see the comic taunted by panelists, peaking at 2.7 million.
The figure is almost double the ratings for the week before and is the show's highest figures since January 2010.

[Peter_]

[gazzae]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

And the mud slinging continues even when it's legal.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18564187


Someone has opened a whole can of worms..

Not sure what your implying by "even when it's legal". Nothing Jimmy Carr did was illegal.

[Damien]

Yeah, Cameron made a gaff in commentating on Carr's tax arrangements.

[Maggy J]

Originally Posted by gazzae

Not sure what your implying by "even when it's legal". Nothing Jimmy Carr did was illegal.

You really shouldn't take these things to heart.