Child grooming gang found guilty

[martyh]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

So tell me this.Why is a racially motivated crime deemed MORE important than say white on white crime?Or black on black? Or Asian on Asian?

It's the same as beating someone to pulp because they are ginger or fat ,It's the idea that they are a lower form of life because they are Asian/white/black or whatever ,and i must say i am very surprised you have to ask that question

[Maggy J]

Originally Posted by martyh

It's the same as beating someone to pulp because they are ginger or fat ,It's the idea that they are a lower form of life because they are Asian/white/black or whatever ,and i must say i am very surprised you have to ask that question

It may be the same as those two examples but why does it make it more important or more serious than the white on white crime.I'm becoming worried that we may end up with a two tiered system of dealing with crimes like murder if we start to let this sort of differentiating creep into our thinking.
Agreed we mustn't let the authorities treat the public in a racially discriminatory manner and push such crimes to the bottom of the pile but neither should racially motivated crimes be deemed of more importance either.

[Osem]

A "small minority" of Pakistani men see white girls as "fair game", Baroness Warsi has said.

It is important to "speak out" and acknowledge the problem in order to tackle it, she added.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18117529

Someone else saying what the police don't feel able to.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Osem

Someone else saying what the police don't feel able to.

It's amazing how the ACPO definition of a racist incident is being completely ignored in this case by almost every senior officer.

If I was the cynical type I might suggest that they are only happy with the definition and the baggage that goes with it when it suits them and their next promotion.

[martyh]

Originally Posted by Derek

It's amazing how the ACPO definition of a racist incident is being completely ignored in this case by almost every senior officer.

If I was the cynical type I might suggest that they are only happy with the definition and the baggage that goes with it when it suits them and their next promotion.

For the police hierarchy and government to admit this was a racial problem would be to admit that their policies on immigration and racial integration are not working

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by martyh

For the police hierarchy and government to admit this was a racial problem would be to admit that their policies on immigration and racial integration are not working

And they would be correct

[RizzyKing]

Maggy no one has said that taking a racial motive into account makes the crime more or less serious but if race is a factor in the commission of a crime it should be treated the same as all other factors. Sorry but if this had been a bunch of white men praying on Asian girls you can bet everyone would be talking about a racial side to the case. In that regard we do have a two tiered system and it is disgusting. My ideal world would be one where we all see each other as people and not a skin colour, religion or culture but we don't so can the law at least be even in it's handling of these things rather then perpetuate the idiocy that racism is only the preserve of white against all others .

[Julian]

And the other scumbag is now named.

LINK

Yet more offences, throw away the key!!

[Osem]

Ditto that. Despicable monster!

[Russ]

Another Asian man. What a shocker.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ

Another Asian man. What a shocker.

What do you mean, Russ?

[Russ]

I mean another Asian man found guilty connected to this gang does not surprise me.

[Gary L]

Ok.
well to be honest I wasn't expecting a non Asian man to be connected with it all.

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Interestingly enough no one has pointed out that the last victim of this gang to come forward (ii.e. the 17 year old that Khan systematically raped) and who's evidence was instrumental in sentencing him, is in fact Asian. Kind of blows the argument that this Pakistani gang only preyed on white girls and were racially motivated slightly out of the water does it not?

As I said before - gangs like this prey on vunerable people. I expect there will have been other girls who have not come forward - who will not just be from white backgrounds.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...onviction.html

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[Russ]

Do you not accept there was not at least an element of race in this considering none of the gang members were white?