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Pornography online: David Cameron to consider 'opt in' plan
View Poll Results: What is the best way to control access to pornography?
Porn should be blocked by default at the ISP level with an opt-in? 6 8.45%
People should have to opt-out of porn with their ISP? 7 9.86%
End users should control porn (software) if they wish, with no ISP involvement? 54 76.06%
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Old 05-05-2012, 21:36   #16
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Old 06-05-2012, 14:00   #17
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Re: Pornography online: David Cameron to consider 'opt in' plan

"The religious fanatics behind Tory plans to block porn"

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I’ve just been reading through Clare Perry’s ‘Independent Parliamentary Inquiry into Online Child Protection‘ which, of course, recommends the introduction of opt-in porn filters on internet connections in the UK.

Its fair to say that I’ve spotted one or two problems with the report that need to be flagged up.

Problem number 1 can be found in the title of the report and the use of the words ‘Independent’ and ‘Parliamentary Inquiry’.


‘Independent’, in this case, translates into the following branding on the back page of the report.



For the avoidance of all doubt, Safer Media’s charitable objects read as follows:

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The protection of good mental and physical health, in particular of children and young people, by working in accordance with Christian values to minimise the availability of potentially harmful media content displaying violence, pornography and explicit sex, bad language and anti-social behaviour and the portrayal of drugs, and with a view to the reduction of crime by;

A) raising awareness and increasing understanding of the impact of harmful media content among policy makers, service providers and the public.
B) educating the public and providing guidance and support to enable parents and carers to better protect children and young people.
C) monitoring media content for compliance with established national guidelines and standards required by the law and seeking strengthening of these guidelines and standards as necessary in the light of academic research.
D) commissioning and conducting research and disseminating the useful results thereof.
You can make up your own mind as to how ‘independent’ that is.

As for ‘Parliamentary Inquiry’, this should really state ‘Ad-hoc group of MPs operating entirely outside any formal parliamentary structures and with no formal Parliamentary status’.

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Old 06-05-2012, 14:13   #18
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Re: Pornography online: David Cameron to consider 'opt in' plan


Looks like a well thought out plan that will cause loads of trouble and fail entirely in it's objective
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Re: Pornography online: David Cameron to consider 'opt in' plan

I'd like to think Clare Perry was doing this to make the internet a safer place for children. Why is it that I'm starting to think this is the first step to a puritanical nanny state?
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Re: Pornography online: David Cameron to consider 'opt in' plan

Surely this will never pass? It's far too damaging?
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Re: Pornography online: David Cameron to consider 'opt in' plan

Why, worse laws than this have passed.
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Re: Pornography online: David Cameron to consider 'opt in' plan

What's the first thing you associate with any filtering?
Complaints about false positive blocking.

So the decision to have a "family friendly" filtered service should be a conscious one by the person who pays the bill, and the choice to offer such a service at all should be a business decision by the provider
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Re: Pornography online: David Cameron to consider 'opt in' plan

If this comes in and you opt in then find you are actually still able to access some can you then sue the ISP?
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Re: Pornography online: David Cameron to consider 'opt in' plan

To be meaningful, wouldn't any blocking have to be at cable modem or ADSL connection level. Otherwise you could simply connect a different computer to the modem, connection, or router.
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Re: Pornography online: David Cameron to consider 'opt in' plan

Joined this forum to add my two pen'orth after listening to this subject debated on Radio 2 last week. From what I gather, this move is designed to prevent children accessing porn, and allegedly resulting in children raping children http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/ma...?newsfeed=true This seems to me to be a monumental buck pass by parents who had no control over their child. Considering the number of violent computer games available to children,and yes, I know they shouldn't be, but they are, very few of whom move on to become mass murderers, maybe net porn is getting blamed for something it's not responsible for. Maybe it's about time parents took responsibility for what their kids view online, software is available, and stop penalising the rest of the world. What really prompted this rant was the stupid mother who had bought her 10 year old son a mobile phone so she could contact him while he was out playing with his friends, and was scared he was looking at porn on it. She hadn't got the brains to get him a basic phone without net access, and was now expecting his ISP to block porn................. Get a grip, I am an adult, I view porn, but I accept that kids should not be able to view it, but it should be parental controls, not an opt in for the grown ups who can view it without becoming rapists. If you can't trust your child not to view porn on their bedroom computer, take the damn thing off them, don't expect the ISP to police it. I expect I will get some grief for this post, but I can live with that, if you have kids, then YOU are responsible for their actions, not your ISP, or anyone else.

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Re: Pornography online: David Cameron to consider 'opt in' plan

I think it's a lot to do with a lot of people think the government should nanny us. the government thinks they should nanny us. us thinking that the government can nanny us with this one as well, and the government thinking they expect us to nanny them anyway.

and then we tell our kids to go and ask the government, instead of go and ask your mother.
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I think it's a lot to do with a lot of people think the government should nanny us. the government thinks they should nanny us. us thinking that the government can nanny us with this one as well, and the government thinking they expect us to nanny them anyway.

and then we tell our kids to go and ask the government, instead of go and ask your mother.
do you think the government should nanny us ?
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Re: Pornography online: David Cameron to consider 'opt in' plan

No. do you?
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do you think the government should nanny us ?
If that is what you like then I would say yes.

I do like wearing nappies and been fed
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Re: Pornography online: David Cameron to consider 'opt in' plan

As a non-parent, I accept my opinion will not count, but I do think parents should be responsible for their kids actions, not the rest of us. And devilincarnate, if that floats your boat, who are we to disagree lol

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And no, the government should butt out, and let parents look after their kids like they are supposed to, and not expect someone else to do it.
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