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Old 01-04-2012, 13:04   #16
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Re: Ed Miliband: 'this will be a one-term government'

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What's making me laugh is Labour are not saying any new policies,
Sorry but your wrong , Time after time Labour condem cuts that are intended to help us get out of the crap they created in the first place. That means there policy is to spend money we dont have. Where does that money come from to support there spend spend spend and spend some more policies.

We dont have a lot of Gold left Brown sorted that out

There is not a lot of money in the pensions as Brown grabbed and spent that.

We don't have much in the way of industries the Unions pay demands and strikes saw to that.

We have far left call centres these days to employ people as the company's sent them off shore to save on over hyped wages.

So what they hell do we have left for Labour to spend should the idiots get voted back in.
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Re: Ed Miliband: 'this will be a one-term government'

Yes, I am wrong. Labour's handling of money is the main reason I no longer support or vote for them. I am now a Tory convert.
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Can't see another coalition for sure but then the Lib dems are likely to be slaughtered at the next election. IF the economy is growing and people are starting to see pay rises then the Torys will be in, otherwise the sheeple will have forgotten about the last shambles and put a spend and borrow party back in and we'll just have an action replay of the last decade only worse as there'll be no golden legacy to squander.
I beg to differ ,what will happen if labour win the next election is they will continue with the coalition plans because they don't have any policies of their own ,and then ,assuming they work,Labour will claim the credit for getting the country back on it's feet ,get elected a second time and then start spending
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And just who will be the next Prime Minister? Galloway?
best get the mrs a burka if he is
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Re: Ed Miliband: 'this will be a one-term government'

Tony Blair seriously thought the fuel protests in 2000 would end his premiership. They didn't. Labour was in power not for 3 years but for 13 (unlucky for us).

Don't get swept along with Westminster tittle-tattle. The one and only issue that will decide the 2015 election is the state of the economy, not mid-term party politicking, no matter how distasteful it may be.
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The one and only issue that will decide the 2015 election is the state of the economy, not mid-term party politicking, no matter how distasteful it may be.
So nobody votes because they don't like a person. they don't like what he's done. or they don't like what he might do.

they just vote depending on the state of the economy?
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Re: Ed Miliband: 'this will be a one-term government'

I voted no..I want it to be one term...but I rarely get what I want
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Re: Ed Miliband: 'this will be a one-term government'

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So nobody votes because they don't like a person. they don't like what he's done. or they don't like what he might do.

they just vote depending on the state of the economy?
Pretty much what Clinton thought and he was quite successful

It's the economy, stupid

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_the_economy,_stupid

Imo the only way The Tories won't be in next time is if Ed goes, doubt the Libs will be sharing power with them next time though, they'll be lucky to have any MP's at all.
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they just vote depending on the state of the economy?
Yes. That's because people vote with their gut feelings rather than with their heads and whether they feel wealthy or not plays an enormous part in that.

Margaret Thatcher won three elections, remember. Despite the endless BBC-sponsored anti-Tory barrage by the likes of Ben Elton throughout the 1980s, enough people generally felt that she was taking the country in the right direction to keep voting her back in.

In 2015, if people feel that things are picking up and they are getting better off, Dave stands a very good chance of winning an outright majority and bringing us a 100% Tory government.

Let's not forget that Ed Millipede's comments were first of all given to a sycophantic hack from a friendly lefty newspaper, and secondly what else was he supposed to say? He can't exactly go round predicting that he isn't going to win in 2015, can he?

Deep down he's not so stupid as to think the election will be about anything other than the economy. But his interview this weekend is not really about winning the 2015 election. It's about applying constant pressure on the Coalition in the hope of forcing it to break up earlier than 2015. Ed's only real chance of winning the next election lies in forcing that election to take place a lot sooner, while the economy is still in intensive care.
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Re: Ed Miliband: 'this will be a one-term government'

And likely the tories will give some sweetners just before the election...that always helps
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And likely the tories will give some sweetners just before the election...that always helps
Yes thats a cast iron certainty whoever is in power.
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And likely the tories will give some sweetners just before the election...that always helps
All governments in power do that: Take the tough and unpopular decisions early on so you can have a "give away" budget in the run up to the election. No surprises there.
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All governments in power do that: Take the tough and unpopular decisions early on so you can have a "give away" budget in the run up to the election. No surprises there.
thing is though,by 2015 we will have earned a giveaway budget unlike past years where labour borrowed heavily to giveaway just to bribe us into voting them back in
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thing is though,by 2015 we will have earned a giveaway budget unlike past years where labour borrowed heavily to giveaway just to bribe us into voting them back in
It would be nice to think that there'll be some gain from the pain. As you say it will have been earnt rather than on the never never. Not sure that the sheeple will be able to understand that though.
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Re: Ed Miliband: 'this will be a one-term government'

I am hoping that the people of the UK have sense and vote this government out, the trouble is, who do you vote in?

As for the Lib Dems, I would be very suprised if the Lib Dems even have any more then a few MPs left, they have done deals with the devil and paid the price for it

Labour need to turn more to the left and need to distance themselfs from Blair mistakes

What they need to do is keep haveing stong attacks at the Troies/Lib Dems policies and mistakes

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Well if the next Government is spend spend Labour you can bet Milibore will not be the Prime Minister that's for sure
Who do you think it will be then?

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Can't see another coalition for sure but then the Lib dems are likely to be slaughtered at the next election. IF the economy is growing and people are starting to see pay rises then the Torys will be in, otherwise the sheeple will have forgotten about the last shambles and put a spend and borrow party back in and we'll just have an action replay of the last decade only worse as there'll be no golden legacy to squander.
If I met a Lib Dem, I will tell then to leave the party, I am wodering if any of the big 3 parties will be the winner next time round, anyway if they Tories lose, Boris will make his move...

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Ed Milliband is incompetent. If he is the best Labour have got, they might as well disband the party now.

David Cameron has presided over some of the worst financial situations in recent history. Situations bad enough they have caused people to RIOT several times. Situations which the Labour party should have been able to turn to their advantage. Something they've been singularly unable to do.

You say time heals. It does. How long do we have to wait though? They've had two years and don't seem to have made any headway.
Ed Milliband is not the best he has got, he is from the Blair/Brown era, what we need is someone who will stand up for the working people, until then, Labour will be in the shadows and others will take their place, who will is another matter...

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Sorry but your wrong , Time after time Labour condem cuts that are intended to help us get out of the crap they created in the first place. That means there policy is to spend money we dont have. Where does that money come from to support there spend spend spend and spend some more policies.

We dont have a lot of Gold left Brown sorted that out

There is not a lot of money in the pensions as Brown grabbed and spent that.

We don't have much in the way of industries the Unions pay demands and strikes saw to that.

We have far left call centres these days to employ people as the company's sent them off shore to save on over hyped wages.

So what they hell do we have left for Labour to spend should the idiots get voted back in.
Yes, Labour has made a lot of mistakes, but they were not 100% reposible for the decline of industry, that was bad government policy (Tory and Labour), underinvestment, bad union relations, bad management and the decline of Britains power and it empire

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Tony Blair seriously thought the fuel protests in 2000 would end his premiership. They didn't. Labour was in power not for 3 years but for 13 (unlucky for us).

Don't get swept along with Westminster tittle-tattle. The one and only issue that will decide the 2015 election is the state of the economy, not mid-term party politicking, no matter how distasteful it may be.
Unless they have a plan to radically reform capitalism and democracy in favour of the working people and less for the wealthy and business, the economy will not recover and hence, they will lose

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Yes. That's because people vote with their gut feelings rather than with their heads and whether they feel wealthy or not plays an enormous part in that.

Margaret Thatcher won three elections, remember. Despite the endless BBC-sponsored anti-Tory barrage by the likes of Ben Elton throughout the 1980s, enough people generally felt that she was taking the country in the right direction to keep voting her back in.

In 2015, if people feel that things are picking up and they are getting better off, Dave stands a very good chance of winning an outright majority and bringing us a 100% Tory government.

Let's not forget that Ed Millipede's comments were first of all given to a sycophantic hack from a friendly lefty newspaper, and secondly what else was he supposed to say? He can't exactly go round predicting that he isn't going to win in 2015, can he?

Deep down he's not so stupid as to think the election will be about anything other than the economy. But his interview this weekend is not really about winning the 2015 election. It's about applying constant pressure on the Coalition in the hope of forcing it to break up earlier than 2015. Ed's only real chance of winning the next election lies in forcing that election to take place a lot sooner, while the economy is still in intensive care.
Ms Thatcher won the elections thanks to the media, the Falklands War and the fact the economy was growing, but in the end, people had enough, if a certain Australian American did not help the Tories, then they would have gone long ago

I don't think Ed will win, but if the economy is doing badly by 2015, then it will be a uphill battle to gwet enough MP's (more than now) to solely run the government, unless Scotland and Wales break off the UK, and remember, he is with a worse economic crisis than Maggie had to deal with, the Worse since the Great Depression
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