Fuel Poverty

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by denphone

Then is has to find 20 members to make up his cabinet and Alan will obviously be the sitting Prime Minister with a radical five year plan of course

I would certainly be a better PM than the idiots we have had for the past few decades!

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

I would certainly be a better PM than the idiots we have had for the past few decades!

But the thing is Alan because you are so wealthy and so full of brilliant ideas the voters want you to pay your own expenses.

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by denphone

But the thing is Alan because you are so wealthy and so full of brilliant ideas the voters want you to pay your own expenses.

I do not have enough money to start an election campain (Phillip green might), so thet money will come from donations from the General public!

[mertle]

anybody who watched house of the future there was a generator on it which provided energy.

Did some digging on this beast which the show boasted 260 of these could get rid powerplant.

There called blueGen apparantly produce 13,000 kw for the year

How they do it with bit gas and steam now the ultimate question how safe are they in homes would flats be capable and the price these things are they available. Something like ths if safe could be massive solution to energy crisis and eliminate fuel poverty as its sold back to the grid what aint used. Well its safe which is good only costs found was whopping 45,000AUS which is 31,000 pounds

http://www.breaze.org.au/action-grou...-gen-fuel-cell

What about councils government funding programme to get them to vunerable poverty and subsidise at XX income.

read yourself

http://www.bluegen.info/UK_BlueGen_Technology/

[Chrysalis]

I think what will happen eventually is companies and the rich will start generating their own power as they have the cash to invest on equipment needed, they will do this as it will save them cash in the long term, however the poor who wont have liquid capital to do this will get stuck on out of control gas/electric rental.

Petrol is going the same way as well, compared to a few years back its hideously priced. However too many vested interests in petrol I would guess anyone who develops a viable alternative probably would be brought out by the oil companies to stop the product getting released.

[Angua]

The social housing locally seem to be getting solar panels & air source heat pumps.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

I think what will happen eventually is companies and the rich will start generating their own power as they have the cash to invest on equipment needed, they will do this as it will save them cash in the long term, however the poor who wont have liquid capital to do this will get stuck on out of control gas/electric rental.

Petrol is going the same way as well, compared to a few years back its hideously priced. However too many vested interests in petrol I would guess anyone who develops a viable alternative probably would be brought out by the oil companies to stop the product getting released.

Generating power requires fuel so the rich will pay just as much for that (on a pound for pound basis) as the "poor". I certainly don't approve of subsidising fuel bills as that just encourages waste.

Fuel will increasingly become a greater and greater part of weekly budgets for everybody as food was once. Nobody will be able to throw it away recklessly as we all have been doing up til now.

Free insulation grants for the needy are available but for the rest of us there's no alternative but to be economical and pay up when the bills come in.

It's more likely to be a choice between being warm and cable TV or gabbing incessantly on a mobile.

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Generating power requires fuel so the rich will pay just as much for that (on a pound for pound basis) as the "poor". I certainly don't approve of subsidising fuel bills as that just encourages waste.

Fuel will increasingly become a greater and greater part of weekly budgets for everybody as food was once. Nobody will be able to throw it away recklessly as we all have been doing up til now.

Free insulation grants for the needy are available but for the rest of us there's no alternative but to be economical and pay up when the bills come in.

It's more likely to be a choice between being warm and cable TV or gabbing incessantly on a mobile.

If I had a choice between being warm and cable TV, I would pick being warm!

[Chrysalis]

I hardly think cable tv is a deal breaker for keeping warm, there is no comparison.

eg. my flat probably needs 1000s spent on it to get its heating and insulation modernised and my fuel bills completely tower my virgin media bill.

heero_yuy sadly those grants for those renting need landlord approval as the landlord has to agree to the work been done. Also how far do those grants go? do they cover double glazing and new heating systems been put in?