Lorry driver should have the book thrown at him

Cobbydaler · 31-01-2012, 22:52

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Originally Posted by The BBC

Two motorways have reopened after a lorry crashed and overturned in Greater Manchester, causing severe disruption to traffic.

The lorry, carrying several tons of animal feed, crashed on the M62 near junction 12 for the M60, at 11:20 GMT.

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Obviously going too fast at the junction.

Regaining the cost of incidents like these from the driver/company might allow the rise in speeding fines to be dropped...

idi banashapan · 31-01-2012, 22:55

there's nothing in that quote you have, erm, quoted, to say he was obviously going to fast... why the haste in throwing the book? do you have a link to the full story?

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found it... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-16812563

still nothing to say he was speeding. what gives? an opinion is not fact. a fact proves a fact and there is nothing here that proves that.

Cobbydaler · 31-01-2012, 22:56

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Originally Posted by idi banashapan

there's nothing in that quote you have, erm, quoted, to say he was obviously going to fast... why the haste in throwing the book? do you have a link to the full story?

So why would a lorry have overturned of its own volition?

Link added.

martyh · 31-01-2012, 23:00

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Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

So why would a lorry have overturned of its own volition?

Link added.

could have been ice on the road ,could have been a motorist cutting him up ,could have been any number of things including speeding or falling asleep .It's a bit early to be throwing blame around

Cobbydaler · 31-01-2012, 23:08

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Originally Posted by martyh

could have been ice on the road ,could have been a motorist cutting him up ,could have been any number of things including speeding or falling asleep .It's a bit early to be throwing blame around

Yes, all lorry drivers drive like angels.

If you drive on Motorways regularly, as I have over the last couple of years, you see them driving nose to tail with less than a metre between a cab & the trailer in front of it...

idi banashapan · 31-01-2012, 23:13

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Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

So why would a lorry have overturned of its own volition?

Link added.

Driver may have fallen asleep, blow out, cut up, ice, gust of wind. Just because a lorry crashed does not automatically mean it was speeding. It may have been, but there is nothing in this report to say that it was.

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Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

Yes, all lorry drivers drive like angels.

If you drive on Motorways regularly, as I have over the last couple of years, you see them driving nose to tail with less than a metre between a cab & the trailer in front of it...

By the same logic, not all lorry drivers drive dangerously. That's a very unfair assumption to make. Again, opinion is not fact.

Gary L · 31-01-2012, 23:16

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Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

If you drive on Motorways regularly, as I have over the last couple of years, you see them driving nose to tail

I've always wondered about that. why do they do that?

Cobbydaler · 31-01-2012, 23:18

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Originally Posted by Gary L

I've always wondered about that. why do they do that?

I believe they think slipstreaming saves fuel.

Gary L · 31-01-2012, 23:25

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Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

I believe they think slipstreaming saves fuel.

It must wear your brake pads out quicker though.

idi banashapan · 31-01-2012, 23:30

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Originally Posted by Gary L

It must wear your brake pads out quicker though.

And your pants at some times I could imagine!!!!

Gary L · 31-01-2012, 23:39

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Originally Posted by idi banashapan

And your pants at some times I could imagine!!!!

Let's fine slipstreaming. if only to save brake pads and pants.

alferret · 01-02-2012, 05:35

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Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

Yes, all lorry drivers drive like angels.

If you drive on Motorways regularly, as I have over the last couple of years, you see them driving nose to tail with less than a metre between a cab & the trailer in front of it...

Vast amount of time driving then Cobby

A couple of years is small change compared to some. I have been motorway driving for around 25 years & have done 100's of thousands of miles in my time & to be brutally honest I have seen many, many more idiots behind the wheels of cars than I have seen idiot lorry drivers, in fact I can only recall one knob lorry driver & he was in a French regged lorry. (although I dont doubt there is the odd bad lorry driver but not all as you seem to imply)
Most if not all lorry drivers fully understand that what they are driving and the danger/injury it can cause.

You may perceive it to be about a meter but have you actually measured it? Generally it would be about 10ft or more, although some do drive closer.

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Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

I believe they think slipstreaming saves fuel.

Its a fact, slipstreaming (drafting) can save about 11% in fuel if you are at about 30m from the lorry in front or around 39% if your a few meters behind. Google would be your friend if you let it.

Sirius · 01-02-2012, 06:46

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Originally Posted by alferret

Vast amount of time driving then Cobby

A couple of years is small change compared to some. I have been motorway driving for around 25 years & have done 100's of thousands of miles in my time & to be brutally honest I have seen many, many more idiots behind the wheels of cars than I have seen idiot lorry drivers, in fact I can only recall one knob lorry driver & he was in a French regged lorry. (although I dont doubt there is the odd bad lorry driver but not all as you seem to imply)
Most if not all lorry drivers fully understand that what they are driving and the danger/injury it can cause.

You may perceive it to be about a meter but have you actually measured it? Generally it would be about 10ft or more, although some do drive closer.

Its a fact, slipstreaming (drafting) can save about 11% in fuel if you are at about 30m from the lorry in front or around 39% if your a few meters behind. Google would be your friend if you let it.

Some people just don't like lorry's by the sound of it.

mentalis · 01-02-2012, 07:49

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Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

... you see them driving nose to tail with less than a metre between a cab & the trailer in front of it...

I often find that when this happens the lorry behind is trying to build up speed to overtake, and the usually pull out just as you try to overtake.

It's the cars that drive this close to each other that are more of a worry to me.

j52c · 01-02-2012, 08:17

I drove heavy goods for over 27 years and only had one tyre blowout in all that time, not a pleasant experience.

The worst set of drivers on the motorways today are those idiot motorists who think the should not go on the inside lane and plod along in the middle lane at 60mph, then there are those that stay in the outside lane.

Another set are the small van drivers who move in and out of the lanes like nobody's business.

Just ask yourself, who has the most accidents on a motorway.