31-01-2012, 10:02
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re: [MERGED] Poll: Same Sex civil marriages, yes or no.
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Originally Posted by Kymmy
Is there a difference though... same sex marriages need a change in the law, so by saying no are you not specifying that you don't agree to a change in the law hence preventing same sex marriages?? Whatever your personal reason is for saying no is entirely up to you but I don't see any point in hiding behind a supposed technicality 
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There is no technicality. The poll does not ask if I want the law to be changed to prevent gay marriage (in which case I'd have still said no).
I've already stated why I am against same sex marriage. I have also stated I would not seek to prevent it happening. There are lots of things I am against, it doesnt mean I want them 'banned' etc. The world does not dance to my beat and neither should it
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31-01-2012, 10:15
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re: [MERGED] Poll: Same Sex civil marriages, yes or no.
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There is no technicality. The poll does not ask if I want the law to be changed to prevent gay marriage (in which case I'd have still said no).
I've already stated why I am against same sex marriage. I have also stated I would not seek to prevent it happening. There are lots of things I am against, it doesnt mean I want them 'banned' etc. The world does not dance to my beat and neither should it
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I am confused. You don't want the law changed to allow gay marriage but you don't want to ban it.
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31-01-2012, 10:18
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re: [MERGED] Poll: Same Sex civil marriages, yes or no.
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I am confused. You don't want the law changed to allow gay marriage but you don't want to ban it. 
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The law needs to be changed to unban it, they are the same either way you look at it as a ban can only be overturned with a law allowing it and a law allowing it is needed to overturn the ban.... So yes I'm confused as well
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31-01-2012, 10:24
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re: [MERGED] Poll: Same Sex civil marriages, yes or no.
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I am confused. You don't want the law changed to allow gay marriage but you don't want to ban it. 
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The title of the poll is somewhat unclear: if it is asking should we allow same-sex marriages in the way we have hetro marriages then I will say no as described above.
If it is asking should we outlaw the current civil partnerships then I will also say no.
I see little to no point in changing what we have at the moment.
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31-01-2012, 10:27
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re: [MERGED] Poll: Same Sex civil marriages, yes or no.
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Very true
We should be celebrating the love of two people.
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l totally agree DF.
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31-01-2012, 10:29
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re: [MERGED] Poll: Same Sex civil marriages, yes or no.
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That's like saying you can vote but you can't discuss one of the major factors behind the reason as to why LGB (not sure where the T comes into a sexual preference) can not currently marry..
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No, that's like saying you can discuss it, but please keep the discussion civil and respectable. Well, that's what I meant anyway.
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31-01-2012, 10:36
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re: [MERGED] Poll: Same Sex civil marriages, yes or no.
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Originally Posted by Russ
The title of the poll is somewhat unclear: if it is asking should we allow same-sex marriages in the way we have hetro marriages then I will say no as described above.
If it is asking should we outlaw the current civil partnerships then I will also say no.
I see little to no point in changing what we have at the moment.
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So you don't want it banned but you don't want it unbanned? I think that is just a technicality. The poll is specifying marriages not unions.
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31-01-2012, 11:14
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re: [MERGED] Poll: Same Sex civil marriages, yes or no.
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So you don't want it banned but you don't want it unbanned? I think that is just a technicality. The poll is specifying marriages not unions.
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I think it's ambiguous. I can't stand an attitude of "I disagree with it so ban it", I think that's complete intolerance. There are plenty if things in life we don't have to like but for the sake of peace and respect, we should tolerate them.
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31-01-2012, 11:38
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re: [MERGED] Poll: Same Sex civil marriages, yes or no.
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I think it's ambiguous. I can't stand an attitude of "I disagree with it so ban it", I think that's complete intolerance. There are plenty if things in life we don't have to like but for the sake of peace and respect, we should tolerate them.
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So you would be in favour of permitting it in?
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31-01-2012, 12:05
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re: [MERGED] Poll: Same Sex civil marriages, yes or no.
Well I voted yes, because I see nothing wrong in same-sex couples in getting together, as long as they love each other!
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31-01-2012, 12:22
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re: [MERGED] Poll: Same Sex civil marriages, yes or no.
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Well I voted yes, because I see nothing wrong in same-sex couples in getting together, as long as they love each other!
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For once l agree with you.
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31-01-2012, 12:32
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re: [MERGED] Poll: Same Sex civil marriages, yes or no.
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So you would be in favour of permitting it in?
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I wouldn't stand in the way of it being made official.
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31-01-2012, 13:15
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re: [MERGED] Poll: Same Sex civil marriages, yes or no.
I think the question/poll is asking if you are in favour of them right? As opposed to whether you would campaign about them being official or not?
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So for example you wouldn't want to see them banned but you're against them so you'd vote No in the Poll? Would that be right?
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31-01-2012, 13:20
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re: [MERGED] Poll: Same Sex civil marriages, yes or no.
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I think the question/poll is asking if you are in favour of them right? As opposed to whether you would campaign about them being official or not?
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So for example you wouldn't want to see them banned but you're against them so you'd vote No in the Poll? Would that be right?
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That's more like it
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31-01-2012, 13:26
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re: [MERGED] Poll: Same Sex civil marriages, yes or no.
I think a lot of people from a religious background will say they are not in favour of gay marriages personally, but they're not actively going to campaign against them being banned. So from my point of view I don't agree with it from a religious perspective, but if you want to go ahead and get married to someone of the same sex, it's not really my problem.
Interestingly enough I met a friend of mine a few months ago for teh first time in about 2 years. I thought he was gay, he had never mentioned it before, but when we met for a drink he told me he had got married to another guy. Was I suprised that he was gay? No. Was I suprised that he got married to another guy? No. Will I stay friends with him? Yes.
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