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Old 27-01-2012, 14:43   #61
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Re: Britain's national debt tops £1 trillion

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We need to increase Taxes and invest in the economy and reduce our debt!
We need to close the doors on the immigrants who are entering this country in their thousands taking the jobs and sending their money back home.

Germany, France and Italy all signed up to an agreement which stopped all immigrants from working and claiming state benefits, did the UK sign up? Nope Blair and Brown cocked it up royally, now we can't get out of it because heaven forbid we'll breach their human rights.

I was a Labour supporter but now I don't know who to vote for.
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Old 27-01-2012, 14:56   #62
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We need to close the doors on the immigrants who are entering this country in their thousands taking the jobs and sending their money back home.

Germany, France and Italy all signed up to an agreement which stopped all immigrants from working and claiming state benefits, did the UK sign up? Nope Blair and Brown cocked it up royally, now we can't get out of it because heaven forbid we'll breach their human rights.

I was a Labour supporter but now I don't know who to vote for.
What agreement was than then?
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Old 27-01-2012, 15:09   #63
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We need to close the doors on the immigrants who are entering this country in their thousands taking the jobs and sending their money back home.

Germany, France and Italy all signed up to an agreement which stopped all immigrants from working and claiming state benefits, did the UK sign up? Nope Blair and Brown cocked it up royally, now we can't get out of it because heaven forbid we'll breach their human rights.

I was a Labour supporter but now I don't know who to vote for.
There's just no party for a racist bigot to turn to?
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Old 27-01-2012, 15:12   #64
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There's just no party for a racist bigot to turn to?
What about the BNP or UKIP?
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What agreement was than then?
He could be getting crossed wires when the former eastern block countries joined the EU Germany and france at least i think there were more, put an moritorium on anybody coming there to work for 2 years he may have been meaning this.

We of course accepted all who came from day 1 for good or bad,i personally think Blair did wrong on this and should have followed France and Germany.

Just my opinion though.

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What about the BNP or UKIP?
UKIP are not racist they accept all and are of course in favour of pulling us out of the EU.

The BNP of course are very racist
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Old 27-01-2012, 15:17   #66
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He could be getting crossed wires when the former eastern block countries joined the EU Germany and france at least i think there were more, put an moritorium on anybody coming there to work for 2 years he may have been meaning this.

We of course accepted all who came from day 1 for good or bad,i personally think Blair did wrong on this and should have followed France and Germany.

Just my opinion though.

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UKIP are not racist they accept all and are of course in favour of pulling us out of the EU.

The BNP of course are very racist
I would describe UKIP as BNP-lite
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Old 27-01-2012, 15:21   #67
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I would describe UKIP as BNP-lite
I would not, i have listened to many speeches by Nigel Farage and he derides racism at every opportunity he often also is on James Whales LBC drive show if there was any hint of racism James Whale would not have him on as he holds no truck with racist views he appears on Question time as well.

The BNP though well they are in a league of their own and i would not wish to associate anybody with them.
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That's not the case. When Labour cut VAT to 15% there was an immediate boost in retail sales. When it went back up to 17.5% it didn't really slow sales. When the tories put it up to 20%, it had an immediate adverse affect on sales, and has clobbered retail sales.

Don't be fooled into thinking we are paying less tax than previously. Each government increases the tax burden, then never reduce it.
I never said as a whole we paying less tax.

I said proportionally less is falling onto companies.
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Yes, but life is better for them when compaired to when Hugo Chávez was in power, if only a little bit!

My point is that if they do notn fix Britains problems, they they will lose power!
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I was comparing Pre-Chavez Venezuela to Post-Chavez Venezuela!

My point is if the three main parties do not come with radical solutions to our economic problems, they will lose their votes support to other parties!

This applys to both Left/Centre/Right wing voters!
No, you weren't (you may have intended to, but that is not what you did, and we can only go on what you state, not what you thought you meant you thought you stated).

You used the past tense about Chavez ("when Chavez was in power") as a comparator for a statement in the present tense ("life is better for them").

btw, if you were in "high management", who wrote your reports* for you?

*unless, of course, the "high management" was at TJ Hughes, Habitat, Oddbins, or in the Greek Government....
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There's just no party for a racist bigot to turn to?
Who's racist?
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I never said as a whole we paying less tax.

I said proportionally less is falling onto companies.
Sorry, not sure what you mean by that?

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No, you weren't (you may have intended to, but that is not what you did, and we can only go on what you state, not what you thought you meant you thought you stated).

You used the past tense about Chavez ("when Chavez was in power") as a comparator for a statement in the present tense ("life is better for them").

btw, if you were in "high management", who wrote your reports* for you?

*unless, of course, the "high management" was at TJ Hughes, Habitat, Oddbins, or in the Greek Government....
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