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Old 20-01-2012, 14:32   #1
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Man beaten unconscious sees attackers walk free from court

BBC Story: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16640881

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A man who was kicked unconscious after he intervened to stop three men vandalising bins, has spoken of his anger as his attackers were spared jail

They received non-custodial sentences despite the fact that Joseph O'Reilly spent weeks in hospital after the attack in Manchester a year ago

The pair were seen celebrating after the sentencing.
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Wonderful justice system we have
Absolutely shocking that they were not given a custodial sentence but what can you expect from a wooly Liberal justice system which favours the criminal more then the victim.
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Yep saw this yeserday on sky news ,James Whale was commenting on the celebrations of the thugs after getting non custodial sentences ,there isn't much to be done about it ,it is truly disgusting
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Re: Man beaten unconscious sees attackers walk free from court

Its about time we reformed the Justice system!
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Old 20-01-2012, 14:57   #5
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Re: Man beaten unconscious sees attackers walk free from court

The only thing that needs changing about it all is replacing the judges that live out in the countryside in the middle of nowhere, away from it all. with some normal people who live amongst the real people.
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Yep saw this yeserday on sky news ,James Whale was commenting on the celebrations of the thugs after getting non custodial sentences ,there isn't much to be done about it ,it is truly disgusting
I think there's still an appeal option?
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I think there's still an appeal option?
I wouldn't hold your breath.

There's something intrinsically wrong with a system that locks up pensioners for not paying arbitrary wheelie bin fines or TX tax fines yet allows thugs to roam free on our streets to terrorise and maim innocent citizens.

The judiciary are always keen to promote their independance, IMHO that independance is in the last chance saloon with judgements like this.
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I think there's still an appeal option?
and i hope that appeal option is vigorously pursued by a couple of relatives of the injured man and some baseball bats.

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I wouldn't hold your breath.

There's something intrinsically wrong with a system that locks up pensioners for not paying arbitrary wheelie bin fines or TX tax fines yet allows thugs to roam free on our streets to terrorise and maim innocent citizens.

The judiciary are always keen to promote their independance, IMHO that independance is in the last chance saloon with judgements like this.
That is a very acurate assessment
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Re: Man beaten unconscious sees attackers walk free from court

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and i hope that appeal option is vigorously pursued by a couple of relatives of the injured man and some baseball bats.
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Re: Man beaten unconscious sees attackers walk free from court

I don't condone violence, but I think it should be extended to members outside the family and their baseball bats too.
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Re: Man beaten unconscious sees attackers walk free from court

That just makes them worse than the morons who did the attack in the first time. Then they would end up in gaol rather than the miscreants who maybe should be.
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That just makes them worse than the morons who did the attack in the first time. Then they would end up in gaol rather than the miscreants who maybe should be.
justice and the law don't always go hand in hand though
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That just makes them worse than the morons who did the attack in the first time. Then they would end up in gaol rather than the miscreants who maybe should be.
If justice worked properly in the first place. the baseball bats wouldn't have to come out the boots of the cars.
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Happens all the time. The defendants are always sorry and woeful in the dock and the minute they get let off because they are starting a new job in a few days / turning their lives around / no longer associating with friends who get them into trouble / no longer taking drink and drugs / found god *delete excuses from the big bumper book of defence lawyer lies as applicable* they are laughing joking and high-fiving their mates.
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I don't think that finding god (or God) or other expectations of change should allow the guilty to avoid punishment unless there are other circumstances that would mean that punishment is no longer applicable. There could be reasons for changing the punishment if it can be shown that there is already a change in the behaviour or attitudes in the defendants. There could be if say they are committed to some form of "treatment" or "service" that the courts could determine as being equable to the intended punishment.
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