Oh look! Manhattan court declares "Iran behind 9/11 attacks".
16-01-2012, 17:51
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Re: Oh look! Manhattan court declares "Iran behind 9/11 attacks".
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry
Do you think Alan would view an invasion of Iran as just the first step in his master plan to form the united and entirely benevolent 'world government' so many of his ideas on pensions, the economy etc. seem to rely upon?...... 
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Re: Oh look! Manhattan court declares "Iran behind 9/11 attacks".
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Originally Posted by Sirius
So are you going to join up and put your neck on the line or are you just another gobby armchair warrior willing to risk others lives but your own.
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16-01-2012, 17:54
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Re: Oh look! Manhattan court declares "Iran behind 9/11 attacks".
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry
The UK (and the west) have surly now run out of sanctions to launch aganist Iran, they will have to launch millitary action aganist Iran, and if they do that, they will have the support of the Iranian people and the Arab world!
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Well then, we have to spend a lot more in defence and employ a lot morew people, it would also help our economy!
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No, it would involve our air force (which is just as dangerous)!
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So are you going to join up to fight this war or are you just another Gobby arm chair warrior intent on risking others lives while you cower at home with your white feather.
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16-01-2012, 19:38
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Re: Oh look! Manhattan court declares "Iran behind 9/11 attacks".
I think it's unfair to accuse people who support military action against another country of being willing to risk the lives of others. A nuclear Iran is a worry and a worry we share with many around the world and, like it or not, military options are on the table when diplomacy and sanctions fail. So I think it's perfectly acceptable to debate the use of such an option without being accused of a willingness to risk other peoples lives.
That is just a cheap emotional appeal and could be countered by a similarly weak argument that if you don't support military action then your risking peoples' lives by allowing Iran to have such a deadly weapon. It just doesn't get us anywhere, better to debate the substance of the argument.
Remember the people who join the military do so voluntarily, they do so knowing they may face armed conflict and die. They know that such a decision isn't theirs to take and they could be sent to a war of which they don't approve. We don't force people to fight for us but the ones that do have to follow the command of their leaders.
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16-01-2012, 20:07
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Re: Oh look! Manhattan court declares "Iran behind 9/11 attacks".
But he's not supporting it, he's proposing it - a bit different.
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17-01-2012, 09:20
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Re: Oh look! Manhattan court declares "Iran behind 9/11 attacks".
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Originally Posted by Osem
Well we'll rely on the French of course....... 
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Do you think Alan would view an invasion of Iran as just the first step in his master plan to form the united and entirely benevolent 'world government' so many of his ideas on pensions, the economy etc. seem to rely upon?...... 
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A world government (which is a very far feached idea!) would be a rather good idea, I mean we are all humans!
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Worked so well in Iraq..... 
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Becuase America planned the war badly and made a lot of stupid mistakes!
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy
Nice to see Erasmus' war is wondeful to those who have no experience of it line's still relevant after 600 odd years, people like you make me want to puke, more than happy to fight to the last drop of some one elses blood.
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War is a horrible thing, I do not want wars, but the world is not perfect and there are bad governments across the world! 
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Originally Posted by Sirius
So are you going to join up to fight this war or are you just another Gobby arm chair warrior intent on risking others lives while you cower at home with your white feather.
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If we do have a war against Iran and the UK millitary want more people, they I might as well join!
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Originally Posted by Damien
I think it's unfair to accuse people who support military action against another country of being willing to risk the lives of others. A nuclear Iran is a worry and a worry we share with many around the world and, like it or not, military options are on the table when diplomacy and sanctions fail. So I think it's perfectly acceptable to debate the use of such an option without being accused of a willingness to risk other peoples lives.
That is just a cheap emotional appeal and could be countered by a similarly weak argument that if you don't support military action then your risking peoples' lives by allowing Iran to have such a deadly weapon. It just doesn't get us anywhere, better to debate the substance of the argument.
Remember the people who join the military do so voluntarily, they do so knowing they may face armed conflict and die. They know that such a decision isn't theirs to take and they could be sent to a war of which they don't approve. We don't force people to fight for us but the ones that do have to follow the command of their leaders.
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A very well said post!
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