CoE calls for reconsideration of proposed welfare reforms.

[Mr Angry]

An interesting, if not entirely predictable, development.

From the Guardian:

Rowan Williams is calling on the Government to reconsider its position.

"Eighteen Church of England bishops, backed by Williams and the archbishop of York, John Sentamu, are demanding that ministers rewrite their flagship plan to impose a £500-a-week benefit cap on families."

Full story here.

Open letter here.

[RizzyKing]

Why can't the CoE stay out of things like this and worry more about dwindling attendence at their buildings on a sunday even though i should be supporting them on this i just wish they would stay out of it.

[Mr Angry]

[cynic]Perhaps it's their way of trying to get more people through the doors?[/cynic]

[Pierre]

Who gives a flying toss was about what CoE say?

[martyh]

Maybe the CoE and come to think of it the catholic church could offload some of their property that lies empty and out of use due to dwindling attendance and use the proceeds to help the thousands that are suffering because the government is trying to keep UK plc afloat .
The church in any form has no business getting involved in politics imo

[papa smurf]

capping it a £500- how high does it currently get ??
you need a really good job to bag that kind of wage[£500] in cleethorpes .

[Russ]

Originally Posted by martyh

Maybe the CoE and come to think of it the catholic church could offload some of their property that lies empty and out of use due to dwindling attendance and use the proceeds to help the thousands that are suffering because the government is trying to keep UK plc afloat .

Maybe they already do?

Originally Posted by martyh

The church in any form has no business getting involved in politics imo

Who exactly do you mean by 'The Church'?

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Who gives a flying toss was about what CoE say?

Xmas is coming. they always make themselves look interested when it's Xmas.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Xmas is coming. they always make themselves look interested when it's Xmas.

whats santa got to do with the church

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ

Who exactly do you mean by 'The Church'?

The leaders?

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

whats santa got to do with the church

Frankincense, myrrh and gold. the connection is prezzies!

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Gary L

The leaders?

Thanks, but I was asking the person that said it.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ

Thanks, but I was asking the person that said it.

I know. I was just guessing what his answer would be.

[martyh]

Originally Posted by Russ

Maybe they already do?

well if they do they missed one at the bottom of my road that's been empty for years .Trouble is i suppose is that it will most likely be a useless listed building from the victorian age that the church cannot do anything with ,which is a seperate issue

Who exactly do you mean by 'The Church'?

All churches (religions if you like)should stay out of politics ,not a statement that's hard to grasp Russ

[Russ]

Originally Posted by martyh

All churches (religions if you like)should stay out of politics ,not a statement that's hard to grasp Russ

It is if you're going to be vague.

By "The Church/All Churches" do you mean the buildings ie the people who run the buildings such as those at 'vicar' level? Islam does not use churches so are you excluding them, as well as Hinduism, etc? There is a point I'm getting at but I'd like you to be specific about who exactly you mean by 'the church' before I go in to detail about my view on that.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ

By "The Church/All Churches" do you mean the buildings ie the people who run the buildings such as those at 'vicar' level?

If you were asking me, I'd say yes.

it's a bit like McDonalds should stick to burgers and fries, and keep out of the problem of fuel costs.