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Old 31-01-2012, 07:36   #541
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This means that we are are even closer to a United States of Europe, but whenever we join it is a another matter...
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This means that we are are even closer to a United States of Europe, but whenever we join it is a another matter...
There is no chance of us joining it.
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There is no chance of us joining it.
It either the United States of Europe or the United States of America we would end up joining
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It either the United States of Europe or the United States of America we would end up joining
No we are the good old British Isles and most people want it to stay that way.
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No we are the good old British Isles and most people want it to stay that way.
Well whatever we do, we are ultimately controlled from China
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Well whatever we do, we are ultimately controlled from China
History tells us that, despite who is theoretically ruling these islands, we are never "controlled" - just ask the Romans
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History tells us that, despite who is theoretically ruling these islands, we are never "controlled" - just ask the Romans
You are right, Britain is a hard place to invade, just ask the Germans, Romans and French!
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History tells us that, despite who is theoretically ruling these islands, we are never "controlled" - just ask the Romans
Exactly and you know your British history very well as well.
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You are right, Britain is a hard place to invade, just ask the Germans, Romans and French!
You may get a different answer if you ask the Normans, the Saxons, and the Vikings - and the Romans managed it for nearly 400 years.....
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You may get a different answer if you ask the Normans, the Saxons, and the Vikings - and the Romans managed it for nearly 400 years.....
But they had a hell of a hard time, lost a lot of men (not always Roman admittedly), couldn't conquer some parts (Scotland for instance) and finally left down-beat and sodden (due to our lovely weather)
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You may get a different answer if you ask the Normans, the Saxons, and the Vikings - and the Romans managed it for nearly 400 years.....
The Romans left and the Normans, the Saxons, and the Vikings became "British"
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How 'magic' made Greek debt disappear before it joined the euro
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16834815

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Greece is at the heart of the ongoing eurozone crisis, but is past sleight of hand by Greek statisticians to blame for the country's current financial meltdown?

"We used to call him the magician, because he could make everything disappear.

"He made inflation disappear. And then he made the deficit disappear," recalls Greek economist Miranda Xafa.
'Magic' made all the more 'realistic' because it was what the Eurocrats wanted to see/hear....

The banks are certainly culpable in large part for the mess we're in but what about the politicians whose singleminded fixation with a European superstate led them to overlook what was staring them in the face because it was expedient to do so?
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Well, on the News Quiz on Radio 4, they suggested that maybe Harry Redknapp's dog should be advising Greece.
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Well, on the News Quiz on Radio 4, they suggested that maybe Harry Redknapp's dog should be advising Greece.
Nah it'll be far too busy auditing the European Commission's financial accounts...

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The Greek people have been pushed to the limit by austerity measures demanded by the EU and IMF, the country's public order minister says.

Christos Papoutsis said Greece had made "superhuman" efforts to comply, and the people "can't take any more".

Eurozone chiefs cancelled a meeting with Greek officials earlier, demanding further cuts and reassurances.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17037267

This isn't looking good. There's a whole lot of serious resentment building up in Greece and something is going to give.
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