Is this the nanny state / PC gone mad or a sensible approach to overt sexualization.
04-06-2011, 10:40
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Is this the nanny state / PC gone mad or a sensible approach to overt sexualization.
Some of the key recommendations of a report backed by David Cameron are as follows;
• Retailers to ensure magazines with sexualised images have modesty sleeves.
• The Advertising Standards Authority to discourage placement of billboards near schools and nurseries.
• Music videos to be sold with age ratings.
• Procedures to make it easier for parents to block adult and age restricted material on internet.
Is this the "nanny state" / "PC" gone mad?
Discuss.
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04-06-2011, 10:59
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Re: Is this the nanny state / PC gone mad or a sensible approach to overt sexualizati
Are they going to ban underage children from performing adult themed acts on the X factor or Britain's Got Talent?Or parodying adult dances/themes etc in adverts etc.
Then I'm all for it.
It's not the adults being sexy that we need to protect our children from, it's preventing children being displayed in adult settings doing adult type actions that should be addressed.
A young bikini clad woman on a billboard near a school is not going to worry children or cause them any issues.
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04-06-2011, 11:00
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Re: Is this the nanny state / PC gone mad or a sensible approach to overt sexualizati
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Originally Posted by Mr Angry
Some of the key recommendations of a report backed by David Cameron are as follows;
• Retailers to ensure magazines with sexualised images have modesty sleeves.
• The Advertising Standards Authority to discourage placement of billboards near schools and nurseries.
• Music videos to be sold with age ratings.
• Procedures to make it easier for parents to block adult and age restricted material on internet.
Is this the "nanny state" / "PC" gone mad?
Discuss.
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No on this l do not think it is the nanny state as l believe younger children see too many sexualised images too early in their life when their minds are not mature enough to handle it and makes the right decisions.
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04-06-2011, 11:12
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Re: Is this the nanny state / PC gone mad or a sensible approach to overt sexualizati
It's going to be hard to reverse the clock back to the 70's .Advertisers and program makers tend to aim a lot of their products towards children using adult themes and getting them to tone things down is going to be hard .All the regulations in the world won't make any difference if the adults themselves don't change their way of thinking
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04-06-2011, 11:24
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Re: Is this the nanny state / PC gone mad or a sensible approach to overt sexualizati
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It's going to be hard to reverse the clock back to the 70's .Advertisers and program makers tend to aim a lot of their products towards children using adult themes and getting them to tone things down is going to be hard .All the regulations in the world won't make any difference if the adults themselves don't change their way of thinking
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Yes adults have a lot to answer to for as you say they have to set a much better example to their children and to the much wider society on the whole as children are highly impressionable to their elders.
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04-06-2011, 11:25
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Re: Is this the nanny state / PC gone mad or a sensible approach to overt sexualizati
Cameron has also annoyed a load of people by stating same sex scenes that contain kissing or between homosexuals which could promote homosexuality should only happen after 9pm watershed. The argument is that it suggests something is wrong with it and everyone else wants to see str8 people kissing which a lot of parents dont want their kids to see stuff like that.
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04-06-2011, 11:32
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Re: Is this the nanny state / PC gone mad or a sensible approach to overt sexualizati
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Yes adults have a lot to answer to for as you say they have to set a much better example to their children and to the much wider society on the whole as children are highly impressionable to their elders.
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It also has to be decided if it is really a problem or is it just the older generation that think it is .Societies change and what was once unacceptable can become acceptable in a short time .
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04-06-2011, 11:40
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Re: Is this the nanny state / PC gone mad or a sensible approach to overt sexualizati
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It also has to be decided if it is really a problem or is it just the older generation that think it is .Societies change and what was once unacceptable can become acceptable in a short time .
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l just think there has been a steep lowering of standards in the last 30 years and parts of societies have changed for the worse in even normal day things like common courtesies.
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04-06-2011, 12:19
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Re: Is this the nanny state / PC gone mad or a sensible approach to overt sexualizati
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Originally Posted by Mr Angry
Some of the key recommendations of a report backed by David Cameron are as follows;
• Retailers to ensure magazines with sexualised images have modesty sleeves.
• The Advertising Standards Authority to discourage placement of billboards near schools and nurseries.
• Music videos to be sold with age ratings.
• Procedures to make it easier for parents to block adult and age restricted material on internet.
Is this the "nanny state" / "PC" gone mad?
Discuss.
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A few very interesting points\issues there and I'm pretty much for a lot of that I'd have to say.
Music videos should not only be sold with age ratings they should also only be broadcast according to an age rating appropriate to the videos content\theme any lyrics (ok so lyrics partly are) at the ratings given time of day. As to why more and more of them having videos that I cant see has anything to do with the lyrics but almost approaching porn is beyond me. How many music videos these days have female artists dressed in next to nothing in them and dancing like they are on stage in a sex club?. More so when thats nothing to do with the lyrics. Lady Gaga is a perfect example, the videos are downright inappropriate for children. Yet children seem to like her, the videos are broadcast during the day but she's wearing next to nothing and such artists seem like they are aimed at the younger generation these days. I think music videos are just getting to out of hand now and the censors should really get on top of it like they do with the lyrics if there is swearing. You'd not want your kids watching a load of near naked adults walking down your street looking and asking questions so why let them think it's acceptable to do so while singing and dancing like they are in a pole dancing club?. Was'nt The X Factor (or another music show) slated in december (10) for having a live performance by an artist that was to raunchy for younger viewers yet the music videos are even worse yet they never get slated by the respective regulators?.
I'm as broad minded as the most liberal person, but these are our children who are exposed to this kind of thing, as an adult we are deemed old enought to judge what we want to see. But children are not and often far to many a children go looking for these videos on the music channels and it's wrong.
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04-06-2011, 12:53
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Re: Is this the nanny state / PC gone mad or a sensible approach to overt sexualizati
I think sex has become too commonplace in our society and while it may appeal to a range it is not appealing to most people. I think it is right that we try to protect children from this aspect until they have the maturity to both understand it and deal with it.
We do have to be careful we don't go too far with it and become almost puritan in our approach but at this point in time i have no problem with scaling the exposure of sex to the young back a few notches.
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04-06-2011, 14:10
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Re: Is this the nanny state / PC gone mad or a sensible approach to overt sexualizati
It's too late now.
it all started with Playstations and Xboxes, and Mary Whitehouse not being around to stop it on the tele.
we're out of control. sex is everywhere. we have sex on the brain.
And I think these 'Slut Walks' are going to become a regular thing. so that doesn't help much.
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04-06-2011, 14:55
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Re: Is this the nanny state / PC gone mad or a sensible approach to overt sexualizati
Should ban holidays to Greece for pre 16 year olds and make them all wear Burkhas. They only need to visit an art gallery to see nakedness.
All banning or restriction does is make it all more tempting and increases miss-information. Ignorance is not bliss no matter what any government might wish.
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04-06-2011, 15:32
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Re: Is this the nanny state / PC gone mad or a sensible approach to overt sexualizati
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Should ban holidays to Greece for pre 16 year olds and make them all wear Burkhas. They only need to visit an art gallery to see nakedness.
All banning or restriction does is make it all more tempting and increases miss-information. Ignorance is not bliss no matter what any government might wish.
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theres a difference in seeing nakedness than seeing nakedness in a state of arrousal or engaged in sexual acts.
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04-06-2011, 15:53
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Re: Is this the nanny state / PC gone mad or a sensible approach to overt sexualizati
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Cameron has also annoyed a load of people by stating same sex scenes that contain kissing or between homosexuals which could promote homosexuality should only happen after 9pm watershed. The argument is that it suggests something is wrong with it and everyone else wants to see str8 people kissing which a lot of parents dont want their kids to see stuff like that.
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May I ask where he has said this?
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04-06-2011, 16:16
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Re: Is this the nanny state / PC gone mad or a sensible approach to overt sexualizati
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All banning or restriction does is make it all more tempting and increases miss-information. Ignorance is not bliss no matter what any government might wish.
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That's a rather self-serving argument though, isn't it ... Often advanced by those who disapprove of banning or restriction.
It is also patently untrue - banning an activity results in most people not doing it. It also introduces consequences for continuing to do the banned thing, which those who object to the ban naturally disapprove of. Again, no surprise there.
It is also untrue to suggest that the result of banning overtly sexual imagery from places where children might see it is 'ignorance'. On the contrary I would say that it makes it less difficult for sexual issues to be dealt with in an appropriate context (school, or home, or better still both) without first having to unpick the unhelpful stereotypes and apparent sexual norms being broadcast from our TVs, magazines and ad hoardings.
And in any case, if the proposal is that young girls should remain ignorant of the notion that taking most of their clothes off and gyrating their hips at boys is a good way to be popular and build self esteem ... Frankly, I'm all for ignorance.
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