[Update] The News Corp scandal

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by denphone

It seems the more you open the can of worms the more they wriggle out.

Well it does look like they have a good worm catcher

[Maggy J]

I wonder if it has something to do with a member of the Royal family?

[Alan Fry]

Now will they shut down the Sun?

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

Now will they shut down the Sun?

The answer to that is no.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

Now will they shut down the Sun?

Only if the Times and the Sunday Times go too:

The Times may have international prestige, but it and the Sunday Times lost around £42m last year, subsidised by an estimated £70m profit from the Sun.

Source

2.6m Sun buyers and at least as many others who read it is a significant segment of public opinion.

News International and Murdock may be in the limelight at the moment but the rest of the press are hardly squeaky clean.

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by denphone

The answer to that is no.

Yes, but did Murdoch not say the News of the World would remain open?

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Only if the Times and the Sunday Times go too:



Source

2.6m Sun buyers and at least as many others who read it is a significant segment of public opinion.

News International and Murdock may be in the limelight at the moment but the rest of the press are hardly squeaky clean.

But because the Times and the Sunday times have a international prestige, they will end up being sold to someone elise, while the Sun is a trashy newspaper and will will end up shutting down!

Remember, the NOTW was very proftable, but it still shut down!

[Damien]

News International seem to be the company that have overstepped the mark on a consistent basis. They keep coming close to The Mirror but nothing substantive comes up whereas the Daily Mail seem to have avoided illegality and there isn't much of a question against the other papers.

Although the bribery case may ensnare other papers, all of them would have paid for a story before and it's a matter of when it becomes bribery or not. Paying a Police Officer for revealing information that would otherwise be private, cameras appearing at an arrest for example, is obviously beyond the mark but paying for a tip-off less so.

That broadsheet papers lose money is well known and depressing but I fail to see the relevance in a discussion about ethics. I bring this up not because of the quite you highlighted heero, I understand the point about subsidisation of The Times, but because numerous tabloid editors and reports have brought this up as a justification for their intrusion.

[Maggy J]

Originally Posted by Damien

News International seem to be the company that have overstepped the mark on a consistent basis. They keep coming close to The Mirror but nothing substantive comes up whereas the Daily Mail seem to have avoided illegality and there isn't much of a question against the other papers.

Although the bribery case may ensnare other papers, all of them would have paid for a story before and it's a matter of when it becomes bribery or not. Paying a Police Officer for revealing information that would otherwise be private, cameras appearing at an arrest for example, is obviously beyond the mark but paying for a tip-off less so.

That broadsheet papers lose money is well known and depressing but I fail to see the relevance in a discussion about ethics. I bring this up not because of the quite you highlighted heero, I understand the point about subsidisation of The Times, but because numerous tabloid editors and reports have brought this up as a justification for their intrusion.

Actually Damien having watched a great deal of the recorded evidence from the Leveson Inquiry I have to say that the Mail is not off the hook completely.

Also the police have not yet finished their enquiries and there maybe more evidence to emerge.Besides which bribery of a police officer is a criminal offence whatever the actual information sold consists of.There is no lesser degree of culpability in that crime because it can lead to corruption.

[Maggy J]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...xpires_in=5246

Rupert Murdoch's global empire is set to face new legal action in the US over alleged illegal practices by News Corp journalists. The lawyer at the heart of the phone-hacking scandal in the UK, Mark Lewis, who was instrumental in exposing the scale of illegal voicemail accessing at the News of the World, is in the "advanced stages" of bringing his first case against News Corp on the other side of the Atlantic.

Now that is good news..

With the arrest of five more senior Sun journalists over the weekend on suspicion of corruption and conspiracy - adding to the four former and current Sun employees arrested last month - a visit to London this week by News Corp's chairman and CEO, Rupert Murdoch, is already being viewed, according to one News Corp executive, as "five-star crisis management" with the future of The Sun on the line.

Now is that The Sun or The Son?

[Maggy J]

Tomorrow, the House of Lords will consider whether Murdoch is "fit and proper" to own our media. If we rally a massive show of public support now we can ensure that it’s more than a symbolic action. Let's push the regulators to revoke Murdoch'slicence to operate and end his dirty dealings for good. Click below to petition government

http://www.avaaz.org/en/end_the_murd...082717&v=12622

[denphone]

Signed forthwith.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by denphone

Signed forthwith.

And me

[Ravenheart]

signed

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

http://www.avaaz.org/en/end_the_murd...082717&v=12622

signed lets get Murdoch out

[gba93]

Originally Posted by Dave42

signed lets get Murdoch out

Agreed & signed