France expels its gypsies

[papa smurf]

Special Investigation: As France expels its gipsies,

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz0xskDv0fN



Sarkozy makes no bones about this no-nonsense approach. He claims that the Roma, many of whom arrived in France after Romania and Bulgaria joined the EU in 2007, are responsible for an outbreak of crime.

His solution? Raze their camps, round up their inhabitants and then stick them on a plane home. As a sweetener, there’s a payment of £245 per adult and £80 per child.

[vanman]

that will give them their air fare to the U.K
that be there next stop.

[deadite66]

don't see what the fuss is about you're allowed to move to another country within the EU but you have to be able to support yourself, unfortunately for the gipsies stealing and begging doesn't count.

would never happen here, we're the doormats of europe.

[richard1960]

Originally Posted by deadite66

don't see what the fuss is about you're allowed to move to another country within the EU but you have to be able to support yourself, unfortunately for the gipsies stealing and begging doesn't count.

would never happen here, we're the doormats of europe.

Only because we allow ourselves to be so.

One reason i admire the french is because they or their government take no s-it.

If only we could be the same.

[Taf]

The Italians started this action against Roma... I hope it spreads right accross the globe.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by richard1960

Only because we allow ourselves to be so.

One reason i admire the french is because they or their government take no s-it.

If only we could be the same.

No, their government passes the problem on...

[Osem]

Unless I'm missing something, it appears there's very little stopping the Roma from heading straight back to France... I wonder if the French authorities are hoping that their rough tactics might persuade them that France isn't a soft touch and the welfare grass is very much greener the other side of La Manche.

Back in the UK, operating under the same HR laws I'd have thought, the home office has recently come out on the wrong side of a ruling which makes fast track deportations of failed asylum seekers illegal.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...l-2035648.html

How is it that similar rulings haven't apparently been sought and obtained on behalf of the Roma in France?

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Taf

The Italians started this action against Roma... I hope it spreads right accross the globe.

To paraphrase Martin Niemöller

They came first for the Roma,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Roma.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

[richard1960]

Originally Posted by Stuart

No, their government passes the problem on...

Well as i understood it the gipsies are being returned to their country of origin not passed on,however if any do end up here it is up to us to act if we do not like it, rather like the french.All to often the uk is the dumping ground and whilst we tolerate it that is what will happen.


They are all Roma gipsies and must now make a ‘choice’ — sleep rough or be deported back to their native Romania. ( From the article)

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[Mick Fisher]

So long as they are willing to work on the "cheap" as illegals they will be welcomed by a proportion of UK employers.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by richard1960

Well as i understood it the gipsies are being returned to their country of origin not passed on,

If the French Government are not doing something to ensure that the Romanian government doesn't just let them fly out again, then they are passing the problem on to the Romanian government, or whichever government governs the next country they land in.

[richard1960]

Originally Posted by Stuart

If the French Government are not doing something to ensure that the Romanian government doesn't just let them fly out again, then they are passing the problem on to the Romanian government, or whichever government governs the next country they land in.

Er They are romanian nationals if the romanian governemnt does not take responsiblity for them who will.

It is not up to the French government surely to ensure that the Romanian government does not let them just fly out again,once they are repatriated surely that is the end of the matter as far as the french or any other government sending people back to their country of origin are concerned.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by richard1960

Er They are romanian nationals if the romanian governemnt does not take responsiblity for them who will.

It is not up to the French government surely to ensure that the Romanian government does not let them just fly out again,once they are repatriated surely that is the end of the matter as far as the french or any other government sending people back to their country of origin are concerned.

If the Romanian Government does not deal with them, then they become the problem of whichever country they fly to next. Hence my assertion that if the French Government does not ensure the Romanian Government deal with them, that the French are just passing them on to someone else, and not actually dealing with the problem.

Just like the fact that while on the surface they are trying to deal with refugees in co-operation with our government, under the surface, they seem perfectly happy to do the minimum necessary so they appear to be tackling the problem, but actually letting them through the Channel Tunnel.

[richard1960]

Originally Posted by Stuart

If the Romanian Government does not deal with them, then they become the problem of whichever country they fly to next. Hence my assertion that if the French Government does not ensure the Romanian Government deal with them, that the French are just passing them on to someone else, and not actually dealing with the problem.

Just like the fact that while on the surface they are trying to deal with refugees in co-operation with our government, under the surface, they seem perfectly happy to do the minimum necessary so they appear to be tackling the problem, but actually letting them through the Channel Tunnel.

Thats a fair enough point, but how do you suggest that the french government makes sure the romanian government deals with its repatriated citizens would it not take a EU directive to make this possible,rather then the french government.?

Surely it is up to our government to police immigration into our country, the french may do the minimum neccessary,but everytime i hear a uk minister say the words "we are a tolerant country" i just know that is code for the uks lax immigration policy,as regards economic migrants.

[PeteLockwood]

well done, britain should take the same stance with all our unwanted guests