Goodbye ASBOs?

[Matt D]

Time to 'move beyond' Asbos, says home secretary May

Originally Posted by BBC News

The home secretary has said it is "time to move beyond" Asbos, signalling the possible end of their use in England and Wales.

Launching a review of the system, Theresa May said it was time to "stop tolerating" bad behaviour.

More than half of Asbos in England and Wales were breached from 2000 to 2008, government figures show.

But Labour, which devised Asbos, said they had made a "huge contribution" to cutting crime.

The Asbo - the "anti-social behaviour order" - was brought in to deal with persistent minor offenders whose actions might not otherwise have been punished.

It imposes restrictions, such as banning people from a local area or preventing them from swearing in public. If an Asbo is breached, offenders can face jail.

Mrs May said she wanted a review of the powers because police should be able to use their "common sense" to deal with anti-social behaviour.

Punishments should be "rehabilitative and restorative", rather than "criminalising", she argued.

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My workplace is near a scummy part of Cambridge, and there have been a few times when I have overheard the local scrotes bragging to each other about their respective ASBOs.

[chris9991]

I think it will be up to the Big Society to solve the anti-social problems

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Matt D

My workplace is near a scummy part of Cambridge, and there have been a few times when I have overheard the local scrotes bragging to each other about their respective ASBOs.

It's not cool to not have been issued an ASBO.
they are and were a joke.

[martyh]

Originally Posted by Matt D

Time to 'move beyond' Asbos, says home secretary May




My workplace is near a scummy part of Cambridge, and there have been a few times when I have overheard the local scrotes bragging to each other about their respective ASBOs.

there's a scummy part of cambridge

about time this waste of time was dealt with it did nothing apart from,as you say and i can back up ,give the scrotes something to brag about
sometime i think they deliberately get into bother to get an ASBO so they fit in with all the other scrotes
Question is, what will replace it ?

[Derek]

Like so much of the last governments plans it was a good idea, poorly implemented.

Breaches of them were seen as an minor thing and instead of being harshly treated it was just another way to avoid being sent to prison.

Its the same with community sentences. If you don't comply the chances of actually being jailed are pretty remote and in 9 out of 10 times repeated breaches will normally end up with the whole thing being forgotten about.

[martyh]

Originally Posted by Derek S

Like so much of the last governments plans it was a good idea, poorly implemented.

Breaches of them were seen as an minor thing and instead of being harshly treated it was just another way to avoid being sent to prison.

Its the same with community sentences. If you don't comply the chances of actually being jailed are pretty remote and in 9 out of 10 times repeated breaches will normally end up with the whole thing being forgotten about.

Exactly ,and what 13yr old "fully asbo'd" teenager is going stay away from a certain shop or area of a city just because he has been told to .An asbo implies that someone is going to watch you 24/7 to make sure you abide by it and we all know that isn't going to happen

[Maggy J]

I think the important part of Derek's post is that it was a cheap way of keeping people out of prison and a all too cheap way of dealing with young teenage punks rather than spending money to re-educate and train them and get them eventually to the stage where they could finish school with some qualifications/skills that they could take into the workplace.

There are youngsters who do need taking in hand very firmly because they are a one child crime spree if not dealt with.I hope we get a well thought out replacement system.

Personally I opt for a set of stocks on each and every housing estate myself..I can find some rotten veg and fruit from time to time..

[RizzyKing]

Asbo's are and always were a joke rather then any deterrent effect you had more kids causing trouble so they were not the odd one out that didn't have one. Where i live all the kids that got them with certain conditions never stuck to those conditions and blatently broke them causing the wider comunnity to be more angry with the system because nothing was ever done. What do you replace them with well just tightening up on community based punishments to the point that when given they are enforced even if that means going round to little jimmys house kicking in the door and dragging him out of bed would be a start.

[Damien]

Originally Posted by martyh

there's a scummy part of cambridge

People with mere undergraduate degrees who have only reached the level of amateur actor I imagine...

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

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Personally I opt for a set of stocks on each and every housing estate myself..I can find some rotten veg and fruit from time to time..

Hurrah! Humiliation and public degradation. It works every time except the HRA prevents its use.

And a pillory outside the town hall for Saturday mornings will all the rotten fruit that the local traders can supply.

Birching stool anybody?

I'm sure the local BDSM practicioners can supply a suitable leather clad "Master"