Muslim woman wearing veil 'refused bus ride' in London

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I look at this in two ways, we have a female with a burka, who wants to travel on the bus service, BUT on the other hand, we must look at the fact that, we the public have not forgotten what happened in London.

NO matter what people say, if you hide your face, it MUST be shown if requested by getting onto a bus, train etc, BUT the biggest threat is walking down the road in public, l hope it does get banned in this country, but it won't, as this country is far to soft, in case it offends the females that wear them.

I was down the coast recently, And l saw a couple of the females wearing them in the market, and many people were looking at them,. something has to be done, to solve this problem.

[speedfreak]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I was down the coast recently, And l saw a couple of the females wearing them in the market, and many people were looking at them,. something has to be done, to solve this problem.

PMSL what "problem?" ignorant people staring? Id be willing to bet you dont take many holidays abroad and if you do you look for the nearest English bar. I guess we will have to ban all the staff at Haven from wearing teddy bear costumes, you never know whos hiding under them costumes. Attitudes like yours fuel terrorism IMO, as do these type of threads. If I was Muslim Id be sick to death of feeling like everyone had it in for me just because of my colour/religion. Like I said I can understand it from a security point of view but how people choose to dress walking down the street or on the beach is surely up to them.

[Matt D]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I look at this in two ways, we have a female with a burka, who wants to travel on the bus service, BUT on the other hand, we must look at the fact that, we the public have not forgotten what happened in London.

I don't remember reading anything about the 7/7 Bombers wearing hijabs or niqabs?

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I was down the coast recently, And l saw a couple of the females wearing them in the market, and many people were looking at them,. something has to be done, to solve this problem.

Yes, bigotry is indeed a problem that needs solving

[speedfreak]

lets ban rucksacks

Originally Posted by Maggy J

I think we already have that zing.What I'm against is knowing where the line is already drawn and those who want to push that line towards a fascist state.Ban one thing and then they want to ban something else and so on..

Frankly I'm just bored with the constant Muslim/religion bashing and would love a really different topic of conversation.

No we do not Maggy loads of laws have been changed to accomadate immigrants and marginals.


For example and not even aimed at a Muslim .

S11 of the Employment Act 1989 exempts Turban wearing Sikhs from wearing safety helmets on building sites etc

The Religious Exemption Act 1976 passed by the British Parliament in 1976, Section 2A allows Turban wearing Sikhs not to wear helmets on bikes

these are exemptions to British law that has been in place or was put in place years ago and I believe its the tip of a huge iceburg
http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/T...s_use_by_Sikhs

Oh yeah and what about the fact they are allowed to to carry a Kirpan?? I can not even buy a butterfly knife to play with let alone caryr one

[Hom3r]

Whatever is said nowadays your made to feel bad.

Example,

We have the MOBO award (Music Of Black Origin), where as Music Of White Origin would not be aloud.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by speedfreak

lets ban rucksacks

We'll have to check that it's not part of anyones religion or beliefs to carry one first.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

Whatever is said nowadays your made to feel bad.

Example,

We have the MOBO award (Music Of Black Origin), where as Music Of White Origin would not be aloud.

We can have a quiet one though

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I look at this in two ways, we have a female with a burka, who wants to travel on the bus service, BUT on the other hand, we must look at the fact that, we the public have not forgotten what happened in London.

NO matter what people say, if you hide your face, it MUST be shown if requested by getting onto a bus, train etc, BUT the biggest threat is walking down the road in public, l hope it does get banned in this country, but it won't, as this country is far to soft, in case it offends the females that wear them.

I was down the coast recently, And l saw a couple of the females wearing them in the market, and many people were looking at them,. something has to be done, to solve this problem.

The atrocities in London were perpetrated by males showing their faces & wearing rucksacks, not females wearing the burqa.

As speedfreak said, should we ban rucksacks?

The question of whether women are being forced/coerced into wearing these garments, or whether they do it by choice is far more relevant than implying every burqa conceals a bomb, in my opinion?

Look at it this way Gaz if I was gonna plan an armed robbery I would wear a Burqa I could walk in queue up smile at the camera go to the desk hand them my note get my gun out of my dress leave the bank get into my stolen car drive somewhere secluded hopefully without get the old bill on my back ,torch the car and the burka without showing my face until I walk away from the burning car in a field.( of course all theretical)

[speedfreak]

I dont think Ive ever read of a bank robbery carried out wearing a burka, maybe you may start a trend or I dont read the news enough Though if it had happened Im sure Gary would have told us......

[Matt D]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

Whatever is said nowadays your made to feel bad.

Example,

We have the MOBO award (Music Of Black Origin), where as Music Of White Origin would not be aloud.

Who says it wouldn't be allowed?


I don't think it wouldn't be allowed, more that there'd be no point to it... I think the original purpose of the MOBOs was to make up for the under-representation of black artists & "black music" in other awards? "we" don't need MOWOs, "we" already have various awards dominated by "white music".

[And also... just how much music now is of "white origin" anyway? Isn't much of it actually traced back to "black music"?]


Regardless, it's all off-topic anyway, as a mythical "them" preventing the existence of MOWOs isn't anything to do with wearing niqabs/hijabs/etc. on buses or anywhere else in public...

Originally Posted by zing

Look at it this way Gaz if I was gonna plan an armed robbery I would wear a Burqa I could walk in queue up smile at the camera go to the desk hand them my note get my gun out of my dress leave the bank get into my stolen car drive somewhere secluded hopefully without get the old bill on my back ,torch the car and the burka without showing my face until I walk away from the burning car in a field.( of course all theretical)

how many times has this actually happened, zing?

as I said, I'm more inclined to think this garment is oppressing women, rather than enabling crime?


<edit> unless you class a Darth Vader costume as the same as a burqa, of course

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...ring-raid.html

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by gazfan

as I said, I'm more inclined to think this garment is oppressing women, rather than enabling crime?

And their oppressing the women into wearing it. would you say that the oppression is also against the UK as well as the women?

[Niles Crane]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

Whatever is said nowadays your made to feel bad.

Example,

We have the MOBO award (Music Of Black Origin), where as Music Of White Origin would not be aloud.

The only things making you feel bad about this are your own insecurities, an unwillingness/inability to comprehend the common occurrences of majority/minority societies and i expect a distinct lack of knowledge of today's music and it's cultural origins.

The problem with the MOBO awards certainly is the name though, as strictly, by definition it should cover virtually the vast majority of modern Western music, but instead it covers only a few and not even all the ones which are poorly represented elsewhere. This combined with the tedium of the constant "MOBO, why not MOWO" stuff is why it's badly named.