Christians told to treat atheists and agnostics with "deep esteem"

[Incognitas]

Originally Posted by kirk1690

well I cant keep up with every post can I ? your not one anymore yet you still believe, strange .

There are many forms of Christianity and JW's are but one so one can believe in God without believing the entire spectrum of the JW's faith and belief.

[kirk1690]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

Mosaic ended when Christ was put to death and paid the ransom sacrifice for the betrayal in Eden

you still sound like one ? no easy to get away from those years of indoctrination. The ransom , the new system of things ,the collapse of the international banking system blah blah blah

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

There are many forms of Christianity and JW's are but one so one can believe in God without believing the entire spectrum of the JW's faith and belief.

Indeed, for instance, some xians don't believe Catholics are xians... so should xians hold other xians in deep esteem?

[Incognitas]

I'm still waiting for any evidence that atheists are disadvantaged in any way?Or that just agreeing to let live is actually against any atheists 'code'.

[frogstamper]

If there is a god I don't think we atheist's will come off too badly, because not all religions can be right and as Homer Simpson said, "what if we picked the wrong one, we are just making god madder each week". I reckon he will be to busy smiting the followers of other religions to worry about us.

[peanutkp]

As an Atheist, reading this thread, it's like all the others, pointless in a way. My own conclusions are that most athiests think religious people have lost the plot, but at the same time leave them to get on with it as long as they themselves are also left out of it.

The flip side is sometimes believers tend to think non believers are missing out on something wonderful and they so like to share it, but then that's where it gets dodgy. I feel that believers do tend to feel superior because they have something that others don't so that change certain views on subject, often not in a good way.

Live and let live though.

[kirk1690]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

There are many forms of Christianity and JW's are but one so one can believe in God without believing the entire spectrum of the JW's faith and belief.

Eh have I wondered into online bethel here or the watchtower.

[Russ B]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Indeed, for instance, some xians don't believe Catholics are xians... so should xians hold other xians in deep esteem?

As that was a poorly aimed shot in my direction, I feel suitable qualified to answer it

And the answer is yes - my mother seemingly considers herself to be almost more Catholic than the Pope - and I hold her in very high esteem.

[Incognitas]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Indeed, for instance, some xians don't believe Catholics are xians... so should xians hold other xians in deep esteem?

No but they should respect the laws covering religious freedom.

[kirk1690]

Originally Posted by frogstamper

If there is a god I don't think we atheist's will come off too badly, because not all religions can be right and as Homer Simpson said, "what if we picked the wrong one, we are just making god madder each week". I reckon he will be to busy smiting the followers of other religions to worry about us.

HELP ME JEVUS !!!!

[zinglebarb]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

So come judgment day, nothing will change? Everyone will live happily ever after?
I think you need to re-read the NT Zing

Thats not what I said.

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Originally Posted by kirk1690

you still sound like one ? no easy to get away from those years of indoctrination. The ransom , the new system of things ,the collapse of the international banking system blah blah blah

I still have my beliefs but I have no trust in organisations and I found the life to hard. I still believe in a lot of what I was taught yes.

[frogstamper]

Originally Posted by kirk

HELP ME JEVUS !!!!

Wasn't that, help me Jebus?

Either way I bet his still waiting.

[Incognitas]

If you don't believe in any god or religion why are you getting your knickers in a twist Xaccers?Why not just shrug your shoulders and leave them to their delusions...It's not as if anyone is insisting that you should believe.

Or have they?

[Russ B]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

If you don't believe in any god or religion why are you getting your knickers in a twist Xaccers?Why not just shrug your shoulders and leave them to their delusions...It's not as if anyone is insisting that you should believe.

It's the question of the ages Coggy....

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Russ B

I have taken you down time after time in discussions like this Xaccers, Towny has done it with a lot more finesse. The seriousness I take in your participation of these discussions is always measured by how early you wheel out the 'genocidal tyrant' line. I have shown you how you have taken scripture out of context repeatedly however your strength of your convictions has prevented you from seeing it.

Actually, you've never been able to Russ, neither has Towny come to that, although his attempts have been more substantial and knowledgeable than your own.
You've mostly shied away from the awkward questions, often rolling out "usual suspects" and other non-debateworthy phrases.

I would ask what you'd call someone who demands allegence on pain of death and has ordered the slaughter of countless men, women and children, but I already know the answer.

Originally Posted by Incognitas

If you don't believe in any god or religion why are you getting your knickers in a twist Xaccers?Why not just shrug your shoulders and leave them to their delusions...It's not as if anyone is insisting that you should believe.

I enjoy theological discussions coggy.