Christians told to treat atheists and agnostics with "deep esteem"

[KaySquirrel]

Originally Posted by Russ B

He contracted those out to Mother Nature

Well, I didn't say it was a good question, just one that's not likely to have come up in these kind of threads before!

Originally Posted by Incognitas

Lets just say that even science cannot reveal all the magic of life.

Scientists and engineers will tell you that the humble bumble bee shouldn't exist and most certainly shouldn't be able to get off the ground let alone fly.But they are around and certainly seem to be able to stay aloft.

That is one of my most favorite bits of knowledge. Aren't there something like 7 different theories of flight and none of them can explain the bumblebee?

[foreverwar]

Originally Posted by KaySquirrel

Well, I didn't say it was a good question, just one that's not likely to have come up in these kind of threads before!



That is one of my most favorite bits of knowledge. Aren't there something like 7 different theories of flight and none of them can explain the bumblebee?

I refer the honourable rodent to my previous post.........

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[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Russ B

I have not said prayer makes a difference. I'm saying I believe it CAN make a difference. There are times when God's will in absolute.

And you've agreed that not praying can result in a deity not taking action which otherwise they would have.
Therefore there are situations where prayer could make a difference, but if no one prays, god does bugger all about the situation.

Not at all. Perhaps help has already been sent for without the person knowing about it.

Bloke hanging off window ledge, another bloke there and present, able to help but won't unless someone asks him to and is willing to let the hanging person fall to their death if no one asks for help.
Not a very nice chap really.

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Bloke hanging off window ledge, another bloke there and present, able to help but won't unless someone asks him to and is willing to let the hanging person fall to their death if no one asks for help.
Not a very nice chap really.

In this day and age the 2nd bloke may not want to get involved incase he gets stabbed or presented with a law suit from Claims Direct.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Russ B

Now you see? Your efforts to avoid using a name which you are afraid will give the impression that you have respect for Him has led most people to not know who you're talking about, just like your other old favourite, Rabbi Joshua.

Still playing games Russ?
Its a specific reference to the main deity mentioned in the bible, followed by Jews, xians, Muslims etc.
Wouldn't want anyone to think I was just talking about the deity that you specifically worship.

[foreverwar]

One either believes, or doesn't (imho).

If one doesn't, fair enough.

If one does, equally fair enough.

It's only when either try to impose their view on the other, when the problem starts (again, imho).

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Are we still going round in circles.... Its like watching the Magic Roundabout.

[KaySquirrel]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

I refer the honourable rodent to my previous post.........

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Nooooo!!! Actually, that's a cool link, thanks!

(But science doesn't make them pretty. )

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

In this day and age the 2nd bloke may not want to get involved incase he gets stabbed or presented with a law suit from Claims Direct.

Well, it'd be better for the guy hanging to wait for the window ledge to give way, so he can sue the company that it wasn't fit for purpose.

The only thing to worry about really is if he's hanging there and then get hit by lightning. Most insurance companies won't cover Acts of..

Nah, I can't do it.

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Originally Posted by KaySquirrel

Nooooo!!! Actually, that's a cool link, thanks!

(But science doesn't make them pretty. )



Well, it'd be better for the guy hanging to wait for the window ledge to give way, so he can sue the company that it wasn't fit for purpose.

The only thing to worry about really is if he's hanging there and then get hit by lightning. Most insurance companies won't cover Acts of..

Nah, I can't do it.

On that note could you force an insuarnce company to pay out by arguing that God does not exist?

[foreverwar]

As Voltaire so aptly put it - "Si Dieu n'existait pas, il faudrait l'inventer"

[Russ B]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

And you've agreed that not praying can result in a deity not taking action which otherwise they would have.
Therefore there are situations where prayer could make a difference, but if no one prays, god does bugger all about the situation.

Which would be fine if you'd read my posts thus far

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Bloke hanging off window ledge, another bloke there and present, able to help but won't unless someone asks him to and is willing to let the hanging person fall to their death if no one asks for help.
Not a very nice chap really.

As above.

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Still playing games Russ?
Its a specific reference to the main deity mentioned in the bible, followed by Jews, xians, Muslims etc.
Wouldn't want anyone to think I was just talking about the deity that you specifically worship.

OK if you say so.

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

Are we still going round in circles.... Its like watching the Magic Roundabout.

You've been on this forum how long and you still haven't got the hang of it???

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

As Voltaire so aptly put it - "Si Dieu n'existait pas, il faudrait l'inventer"

I think Jesus would bomb this thread given the chance.....

[KaySquirrel]

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

On that note could you force an insuarnce company to pay out by arguing that God does not exist?

Probably not. They'd only counter with some rubbish excuse like "Oh we just use that term because saying '...and other things that we don't feel like covering' is too wordy."

I've never liked that they use that phrase in the contract actually, because it's used as a get-out clause for anything too expensive to cover.

[Kevin T]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

As Voltaire so aptly put it - "Si Dieu n'existait pas, il faudrait l'inventer"

Vous ne pourriez pas le former...

[foreverwar]

Après moi le déluge.........