Allergic to Cameron?

[Alanmelon]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/sussex/7351320.stm

One of my stories of the day. The video is hilarious and well acted by the boy involved.

Afterwards the boy said: "It's not really that funny. I know it's not big.

I beg to differ.

[TheDaddy]

The slimy git makes me want to puke every time I hear him showing his concern for the 'little man', fake sneezing is pretty tame when you consider what bodily fluids it could have been

[frogstamper]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

The slimy git makes me want to puke every time I hear him showing his concern for the 'little man', fake sneezing is pretty tame when you consider what bodily fluids it could have been

Its all designed to make us think that the "new" Tories have evolved away from being the nasty party, they are copying Blair's strategy in the late 90s by trying to convince us they are no longer way out to the right and are now a modern center right party, as Blair portrayed new Labour a modern center left party. The difference is look behind Cameron and see who's lurking in the background, rabid right-wingers like Liam Fox and David Davies, these guys are not signed up to Cameron's new Tory party. Davies said in the leadership battle to Cameron, "we wont win by apeing Tony Blair", obviously this was a dig, but its precisely what Cameron has done and why the Tories are where they are now in the polls. Beware, same old story, same old Tory!.

[Xaccers]

The thing is, New Labour is more right wing than even Maggie's Tories!

[frogstamper]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

The thing is, New Labour is more right wing than even Maggie's Tories!

Your right there Xaccers, they are no better. Ive come to the conclusion a politician should only be in power for one term, its in that first term, no matter who they are, that they are more likely to stick to the election manifesto, after that they become to comfortable and will say anything just to stay in power. As a guy who voted Labour in 97, not wanting some crackpot loony left government, the one thing I can say is they haven't let me down!!. As you say Xaccers, this Labour government is in a lot of ways more to the right than Maggie's 79 and 83 governments, personally all I want is a government that is "boring", stays in the center ground, and isn't ideologically driven. Id be prepared to give Cameron a go, but its the right-wingers behind him who worry me.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by frogstamper

Id be prepared to give Cameron a go, but its the right-wingers behind him who worry me.

I'm of a similar mind, I'd give the Tories a go, but I'm not holding my breath.
Seems all the "proper" politicians are long gone.
Course if they do balls things up like Labour have, then I'd have a problem who to vote for next time round!

[frogstamper]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

I'm of a similar mind, I'd give the Tories a go, but I'm not holding my breath.
Seems all the "proper" politicians are long gone.
Course if they do balls things up like Labour have, then I'd have a problem who to vote for next time round!

Exactly the boat I'm in now! Mind you though as each day goes by I'm less inclined to vote for Brown, I expect Ill give Cameron a chance though, 3 terms is enough for any party in power. But whoever gets in next I cant see them having an easy ride, what with the way the economy is going south, Labour or Tory whoever it is could well turn out being just a one term government.

[AntiSilence]

I think I'll just close my eyes and tick one, with my finger covering the Labour box. Can't imagine any of the others fixing the problems, but (hopefully) they won't make it worse. Maybe.

[tweetypie/8]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

The thing is, New Labour is more right wing than even Maggie's Tories!

cant argue against that xa.

[freezin]

Originally Posted by frogstamper

Its all designed to make us think that the "new" Tories have evolved away from being the nasty party, they are copying Blair's strategy in the late 90s by trying to convince us they are no longer way out to the right and are now a modern center right party, as Blair portrayed new Labour a modern center left party. The difference is look behind Cameron and see who's lurking in the background, rabid right-wingers like Liam Fox and David Davies, these guys are not signed up to Cameron's new Tory party. Davies said in the leadership battle to Cameron, "we wont win by apeing Tony Blair", obviously this was a dig, but its precisely what Cameron has done and why the Tories are where they are now in the polls. Beware, same old story, same old Tory!.

Haven't heard much that's right wing (never mind "rabid") from David Davis or Liam Fox, who are both in the shadow cabinet as home secretary and defence secretary respectively, or anyone else in favour with the Tory hierarchy.

I don't think there'll be any return to the "nasty" party any time soon, so I think you'd be safe enough with the Tories. I didn't support a lot of what the "nasty" party did, but it was easily better than the Labour Party, old or new!

And with regard to the sneeze, I think the police are being a bit over-sensitive on Cameron's behalf.

[slowcoach]

And don't forget that psychopath Norman Tebbit is still pulling the strings.

[foreverwar]

Originally Posted by slowcoach

And don't forget that psychopath Norman Tebbit is still pulling the strings.

Thanks for making me smile................
Telegraph September 26 2007
Tebbit hits out at Tories and names Brown as Thatcher's natural heir

Telegraph February 29 2008
In a withering attack on David Cameron's party, the former Tory Chairman says it is wrong to trumpet the success of Mr Blair, whose record he dismantles

mmmm, "psychopath" says more about you than him, I am afraid - I don't actually remember him being cited for maiming or killing anyone...........

People's problem with Norm is that he is the antithesis of modern day politicians, in that he says what he means, and means what he says, rather than relying on spin.

A quote from one of his appearances on Question Time in Feb, 2007

Q: Which of your achievements of the 1980s are you most proud of?
A: Of all that I achieved in the 1980s - and that included the denationalisation of BT and creation of a competitive telecoms industry, and the campaign for Margaret Thatcher's third election victory in 1987 - the achievement of which I am most proud is the reform on the trades union law on which much of Britain's economic success over the last twenty years has been based.

Back in the 1960s and 1970s almost everyone agreed that no government could govern without the consent, even if not the approval, of the leadership of the trades unions.

The union bosses wielded huge power. Their veto of Prime Minister Harold Wilson's proposed reforms of industrial relations law led to his dismissal from office in 1970. Four years later, Prime Minister Edward Heath was bundled out of office by the miners' strike, having already been humiliated by the demolition of his Industrial Relations Act and the legal paraphernalia of the Industrial Relations Court. In 1979, Prime Minister James Callaghan was defeated, not so much by Margaret Thatcher, as buried under the vast piles of uncollected rubbish during the strikes of the Winter of Discontent. Britain had become the subject of sorrowful sympathy or utter contempt.

The question of the day was,¿ is Britain governable?". Everywhere they talked of "the British disease" whose symptoms included high inflation, low productivity, poor quality merchandise, incessant strikes, go-slows, blacklegs and work-to-rule disruptions. And mostly they believe the disease to be incurable.

On any measurement, the British record on industrial stoppages and restrictive practices was the worst in any major nation of the industrialised world. We suffered power cuts, sometimes organised and scheduled, sometimes out of the blue, which closed factories, offices, schools, and disrupted hospitals. Union leaders claimed the right to veto legislation which displeased them, whilst their hoodlums on the shop floor disrupted production at will. They even censored newspapers, refusing to print articles they disliked.

Most Conservative politicians believed that strike-happy shop floor workers were the problem, and that we had to do deals with "responsible" leaders to keep them at work. I took the opposite view and argued that the leaders used strikes as a way of increasing their power. They could close industry down - or if the government agreed to do as it was told, they could call the strikers off.

My legislation was based on giving shop-floor union members the right to fairly conducted pre-strike ballots, and the right to fair ballots to elect their leaders, and I ended the immunity of unions from being sued for damages, and I ended the immunity of unions from being sued for damages for unlawful acts. Ever since those reforms were made, Britain has enjoyed being amongst the best industrial relations in the advanced industrialised world. At election after election Labour threatened to repeal my legislation. They have not done so."

Lest we forget, eh?

[slowcoach]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Thanks for making me smile................
Lest we forget, eh?

I'm sure most Yorkshiremen would not agree with you after seeing the whole coal mining industry decimated on a political whim, I expect at least a few miners were maimed when the mounted police charged through them, of course any injuries wouldn't have been reported in case it made the public sympathetic to the miners cause, and the media knew that their own time of power was fast arriving.

A point that is often overlooked is the fact that Britain produced more goods during the three day week than we had done previously in the five day week, indicating that the miners strike was actually a benefit for the country.

The only reason that industry was becoming more and more uneconomic was the fact that the owners failed to upgrade their machinery, machinery in the old days was built to last, more modern machinery could produce products better, faster and cheaper but as the old machinery still ran the owners could not see the sense in replacing it.

Are we any better off now with a few media barons wielding so much power, or would the old Unions have rejected today's working conditions i.e. Agency workers who do not know if they will be required for work from one day to the next.
I see UPS is advertising for people to deliver parcels using their own van, of course they are only needed as and when required, next thing you know they will be expecting them to work for free.

This is the reality of Britain today for many people, a formula which was started by the Thatcher gang and continued by the Blair mob.
Ironically, just down the road from here is what was the big Ferranti electronics factory which today is used to print the Daily Mirror and other tabloids.

I got out of the rat race 20 years ago and started my own business but even though I made a lot of money I never became unsympathetic to the less fortunate, never thought of myself as middle class and never forgot my roots. Even though the Tory party always reduce income tax for people in my position I cannot respond with any praise as I know that any extra that comes my way has probably come from the pocket of some poor sod working in a sweat shop, if they are required that particular day of course.

A better Britain, only for some of us, the minority.