Mugabe - could it all be over for the hero turned tyrant?

[Chrysalis]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

How can they when we meddle by propping up people like Mugabe,allowing arms to be sold to anyone with money and make damn sure that no one in Africa gets a fair crack of the whip trade wise unless they have the power to stop us. Then some companies resort to bribery to have the right to drain the natural resources and those we bribe are selling their countries future wealth and using the money to set up off shore accounts with the money that should be spent on improving the lot of the average African.The international banks very obligingly turn a blind eye to this and so it goes on and on...

If all that sounds far fetched how about this

The ordinary people of Africa truly deserve better but they have never been treated as anything but a continent/people to be exploited.

I know all sorts of bad stuff goes on, but still doesnt mean we should do it.

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Originally Posted by Incognitas

And then you will be the first to complain about the migrants,immigrants and illegal immigrants from that continent who find their way to our shores seeking a better life.

IF we can sort out Africa we might,just might save ourselves.

The true cost of sorting out africa is far more than this country could handle, the british empire pretty much imploded as even then as a world superpower we couldnt maintain that kind of spending to prop up areas. Now as a weakening power we could only do a drop of the required funding and resources. We might find another thing will save africa, when india's fast rising wages get too expensive then the uk will be looking for a new offshoring candidate.

[Maggy J]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

I know all sorts of bad stuff goes on, but still doesnt mean we should do it.

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The true cost of sorting out africa is far more than this country could handle, the british empire pretty much imploded as even then as a world superpower we couldnt maintain that kind of spending to prop up areas. Now as a weakening power we could only do a drop of the required funding and resources. We might find another thing will save africa, when india's fast rising wages get too expensive then the uk will be looking for a new offshoring candidate.

Actually I'm not advocating that Britain be solely responsible for Africa.It's an international problem that everyone has to take responsibility for and be to held accountable for the ills inflicted on it.

[Matt D]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7484165.stm

The African Union (AU) has approved a resolution calling for the "creation of a government of national unity" in Zimbabwe.

[Maggy J]

Originally Posted by Matt D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7484165.stm

The African Union (AU) has approved a resolution calling for the "creation of a government of national unity" in Zimbabwe.

Any takers on this idea getting off the ground?

[kangaroosterrier]

A government of "national unity" means no more than that Robert Mugabe continues to hold all the power till death taps him on the shoulder, and for all his years he's still healthy and as fiesty as ever. Bad Bob does not listen to dissenting voices, he believes that under his rule there's nothing but unity.

Africa could have sorted this out on its own but a problem with this is that SA President Thabo Mbeki is Mugabe's very good friend and I feel it was a mistake to ask him to mediate as the scales were then tipped even more in Bob's favour. ANC President Jacob Zuma would have been a better choice for mediator (even if he has had his share of unscrupulous dealings) as he would have at least been impartial.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

This story makes me laugh, the whole world is complaining about this ONE man, who is totally evil, and what are they doing, absolutely nothing, there is no point in sitting down and trying to talk about it, the guy is a right nutter, and what makes me feel sick, is what he did too the baby, even though, he did not do it himself, he is to blame. We have to go and do something, before this country, is further ridiculed by this evil man, good old sparkie is too good for him, he should be placed out in the bush, without food and water, until he goes the same way as his people, and they are the ones that l feel sorry for.

[kangaroosterrier]

Gordon Brown said today that Britain would consider further sanctions against Zimbabwe and would encourage other countries to do the same. This will have no impact on Bob himself but further set the people of Zimbabwe back.

Unfortunately South Africa was in a good position to help Zimbabwe and did not. Thabo Mbeki's long-standing denial of there being a real crisis in Zimbabwe did not help its people. The influx of Zimbabweans into SA (in one bizarre instance local radio news reported a plane from Harare landed in the domestic flights area of IIRC OR Tambo Airport in Johannesburg and the Zimbabweans were able to enter the country without passports or visas) ultimately led to xenophobic attacks which also did not help the people of Zimbabwe.

Sadly, all I think will occur is more impotent public outcries from the world and perhaps a few more sanctions before it all gets swept beneath the African carpet. Two months back I held some hope for an end to Mugabe's tyranny. I'm afraid I was still naive back then.

[injuneer]

I see the use of further sanctions have been vetoed by Russia & China, no surprise there then, they always do this!

[Osem]

Yes - it's tragic for most Zimbabwians. Methinks yet more shabby deals have been done behind the scenes...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7503441.stm

[budwieser]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

This story makes me laugh, the whole world is complaining about this ONE man, who is totally evil, and what are they doing, absolutely nothing, there is no point in sitting down and trying to talk about it, the guy is a right nutter, and what makes me feel sick, is what he did too the baby, even though, he did not do it himself, he is to blame. We have to go and do something, before this country, is further ridiculed by this evil man, good old sparkie is too good for him, he should be placed out in the bush, without food and water, until he goes the same way as his people, and they are the ones that l feel sorry for.

Me thinks and hopes that Mugabe may get a bit of a surprise one day.
I think someone will do something to him quite soon. Or hopefully he`ll go the same way as Idi Amin.
I`m feeling that an uprising is on the cards for the people.
People can only take so much.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by budwieser

Me thinks and hopes that Mugabe may get a bit of a surprise one day.
I think someone will do something to him quite soon. Or hopefully he`ll go the same way as Idi Amin.
I`m feeling that an uprising is on the cards for the people.
People can only take so much.

The problem I think is that the generals lining up behind Mugabe will do anything to keep power now. They've kept him in power for decades and won't want to lose their place in the hierarchy.

[Matt D]

Originally Posted by injuneer

I see the use of further sanctions have been vetoed by Russia & China, no surprise there then, they always do this!

I'm sure it's purely a coincidence that China is a major supplier of arms to Zimbabwe...

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Matt D

I'm sure it's purely a coincidence that China is a major supplier of arms to Zimbabwe...

Oh and of course China's ever increasing hunger for raw materials and minerals has nothing to do with their stance either........

Perhaps a damned good global recession will sort China out.

[Kymmy]

Well so much for his power sharing agreement

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7664921.stm

[Maggy J]

Originally Posted by Kymmy

Well so much for his power sharing agreement

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7664921.stm

A leopard cannot change it's spots...