Gurkha veterans seek equal rights

[Vlad_Dracul]

OK then. It would appear that they have no legal right of residence and the only arguments for granting such a right seem to be;

(a) they fight in the British army and have died/won many battle honors in various conflicts

(b) A rather more spurious argument that we let everyone else in (presumably less deserving) so why not let the Ghurkas in?

Neither arguments have very much validity since being a crown employee or servant does not convey citizenship or a right to live and work here.


Also the many other people who come here as referred to in (b) above are presumably here perfectly legally since they are members of the enlarged EU,are students,are close relatives of people already given leave to live here or are refugees.

My own personal feeling is that I would happily grant leave to reside here to Ghurkas and their IMMEDIATE familes i.e wife and children only and at the same time,I would cancel or severely curtail the applications for leave to reside here by those collectively in group B above.

[tweetypie/8]

Originally Posted by lostandconfused

IMHO anyone regardless of their country of origin should be given permenant residancy of this country if they have volunteered to lay their life on the line for our country.

totally agree.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Gurkas, live and die for this country, and therefore, deserve the highest accolade that this country can give them, l would give them anything, rather than give them scamming immigrants one penny, Gurkas, give the ultimate to this country, what do the immigrants give us, nothing but hell.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

what do the immigrants give us, nothing but hell.

Oh how you make me laugh Arthur.

[SMG]

I have nothing but admiration for these men of Nepal. They possess all the qualities of first class soldiers. They are disciplined, & feared by all forces the world over. They have chosen to give their loyalty, & their lives to Great Britain. They have been treated shabbily by successive governments & none more so than this pack of idiots in power now.

Any person who serves & fights for this country, as a member of the armed forces, deserves equal pay, status, & the right to live here. As an old squaddie I am ashamed of the way these fine men have been, & are still treated.

Not all immigrants are bad. The last person to win the Victoria Cross was an immigrant. Pte Johnson Beharry was one of eight children living in Grenada. He moved to Britain when he was 19. He worked as a labourer on building sites before joining the Army. This is the highest honour this country can bestow on a soldier.

[foreverwar]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Gurkas, live and die for this country, and therefore, deserve the highest accolade that this country can give them, l would give them anything, rather than give them scamming immigrants one penny, Gurkas, give the ultimate to this country, what do the immigrants give us, nothing but hell.

You forgot to blame Ken Livingstone for their plight, Arth.

btw, you do realise that the Gurkhas would be immigrants, don't you?

[WHISTLED]

Im surprised we wouldnt bite their hands off to stay - Probably some of, if not the best and most disciplined regular soldiers in our forces.

Model citizens, I would love a few living round here.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by WHISTLED

Im surprised we wouldnt bit theor hands off to stay - Probably some of, if not the best and most disciplined sregular oldiers in our forces.

Model citizens, I would love a few living round here.

Except these ones, we can do without them
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2069092.stm

Lippy kid in a bar got beaten to death. No one was found guilty because there was no way to proove who's boot delt the fatal blow. Radio4 did a program on it, and from what I remember their commanding officer wasn't too happy with the outcome of the case but had to abide by it.

I hate it when a few members of an honourable group bring that group into disrepute, more so when criminal activities, especially a murder, is involved.

[WHISTLED]

Reading that it was an accident and not how you described it, the fight was between soldiers and they were caught up in the middle.

They can still come...

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by WHISTLED

Reading that it was an accident and not how you described it, the fight was between soldiers and they were caught up in the middle.

They can still come...

Well said.

[RizzyKing]

They shouldn't have to beg to come and live here if that is what they want it should be offered them as soon as their service ends. This government shames me and everyone else in this country by their treatment of these loyal and brave little sods who also have a wicked sense of humour and would be a plus to any community they were part of.

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

They shouldn't have to beg to come and live here if that is what they want it should be offered them as soon as their service ends. This government shames me and everyone else in this country by their treatment of these loyal and brave little sods who also have a wicked sense of humour and would be a plus to any community they were part of.

Wicked sense of humour! Two of them certainly made me laugh.

I arrived at a camp where they were on guard duty, I had been to this camp a number of times but the facility I was visiting had moved buildings. After getting over the communication problem, they offered to escort me. (the security threat level had been raised)

This was unusual because I usually get an unescorted pass on the camps, anyway I had a job to keep a straight face as one of them was struggling to get into the back of the Mondeo with his gun. It was such a comedy of errors I was hoping the gun wasn't loaded. Then at the first block the other one got out and was running in front of the car while I followed, eventually they found the building on the camp and they both started running back to the guard house.

It was the wrong building after all that.lol

You had to be there to appreciate it.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Escapee

Wicked sense of humour! Two of them certainly made me laugh.

I arrived at a camp where they were on guard duty, I had been to this camp a number of times but the facility I was visiting had moved buildings. After getting over the communication problem, they offered to escort me. (the security threat level had been raised)

This was unusual because I usually get an unescorted pass on the camps, anyway I had a job to keep a straight face as one of them was struggling to get into the back of the Mondeo with his gun. It was such a comedy of errors I was hoping the gun wasn't loaded. Then at the first block the other one got out and was running in front of the car while I followed, eventually they found the building on the camp and they both started running back to the guard house.

It was the wrong building after all that.lol

You had to be there to appreciate it.

Years ago on Salisbury plain the Gurkha's were sent out at night Tank hunting.

Our Squadron was their target. I was woken in the middle of the night to find that they had found us, And that they had entered the tents of every tank crew and were sat with their guns pointing at us and a bloody big grin on their faces. If it was for real they would have taken out a complete tank squadron with nothing more than their SA80's

Very very good at what they do, And i for one would not like to have to fight against them in a battle.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Hi Foreverwar, l don't blame Ken for everything, as the immigrants comment, l watched a tv doc, a couple of years ago, on the Gurkas, and it brought tears to my eyes, on what the people did, just to get to the recruitment centre, and the joy in there face, when they got chosen, to be a Gurka, this country should be very proud to have these guys fighting for this country, can you imagine, your waiting at Dover, and a ship comes in with these immigrants on board, and you ask them would you join our armed services, to get a good life in Britain, what do you think they would say, as l have said before, l have nothing about people coming to this country, providing they don't scam us the tax payer.

[foreverwar]

btw, it's "Gurkhas".....