James Bulger's 18th birthday

[Damien]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

You don't want to get on the wrong side of the CF moderators......

You never know, I am pretty sure they form a posse for when 'banning' members isn't enough.

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Originally Posted by superbiatch

Thats the information I was sent, so its been proven to be incorrect

Scary eh

Originally Posted by Chris

What, you mean like this:



and



Oh what a surprise, a viral text message does the rounds, fingering a perfectly innocent person, but the self-righteous brigade are already polishing their knuckle dusters.

As an example of brainless vigilantism, this is right up there with attacking paediatricians. I am so glad that we live in a society where the only acceptable justice is that which is delivered in a courtroom.

I really fail to see what world you live in.
We would not have known about the latest breach by venables had it not been for a whistleblower.
The government were caught on the back foot and had to react.
These two paedophiles had millions spent on them and their families.
How many kids can claim to have been to disney world, had the money thrown at them that these two have?
We would never have known about the latest breach if not for a whistleblower.
So much for our elected representatives doing their duty in protecting the people hey ?
It could be reported what Venables has done, to suggest that he would not get a fair trial is a cop out.
In line with what another poster has put up, I feel it acceptable that venables be sent to prison for life for the very breach he is currently accused of.
Just to let you know, the name you mention was not the one sent to me.

[Peter_]

Just to let you know, the name you mention was not the one sent to me.

But just as likely to be another innocent person, all such whistleblowing should be taken with a very big pinch of salt or a truly innocent person could be injured or killed through sheer stupidity.

Remember the female doctor that got hounded out of I think it was Portsmouth because she was a paediatrician and the local mob sprayed "Pedo" on her door.

You cannot retrospectively say sorry you were innocent when they are injured or dead.

By the way this is not aimed at anyone in particular.

[Damien]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

I really fail to see what world you live in.
We would not have known about the latest breach by venables had it not been for a whistleblower.
The government were caught on the back foot and had to react.

He had already been sent to Prison before the fact that he had been recalled had been leaked to the papers. Are you suggesting the papers reported this first, and then the government actually did?

These two paedophiles had millions spent on them and their families.?

In order to give them new identities. Obviously needed because of this thirst for lynch mobs.

So much for our elected representatives doing their duty in protecting the people hey ?

He has been arrested. What "duty" does the government have to keep you informed and risk a fair trial? For that matter how does knowing what he did make you safer?

It could be reported what Venables has done, to suggest that he would not get a fair trial is a cop out.

If they revealed the crime, it would be easy to know who he is, if we know who he is, then a fair trail is going to be very hard. It's not a cop-out, it's actually pretty easy to understand.

Just to let you know, the name you mention was not the one sent to me.

Oh good! Because we all know only one person is ever falsely accused. There is no chance it could happen more than once is there?

[Chris]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

I really fail to see what world you live in.
We would not have known about the latest breach by venables had it not been for a whistleblower. The government were caught on the back foot and had to react.

Well, that's the first I've heard of it. Who was the whistleblower, and do you have a link? I thought the Government released a statement after first telling Denise Fergus etc.

These two paedophiles had millions spent on them and their families.

It says something for the level of the debate we're having here, when you don't even know what Thompson and Venables were locked up for in the first place.

How many kids can claim to have been to disney world, had the money thrown at them that these two have?
We would never have known about the latest breach if not for a whistleblower.
So much for our elected representatives doing their duty in protecting the people hey ?

Do you have a page of mindless rants like this, for copying and pasting whenever the need arises?

It could be reported what Venables has done, to suggest that he would not get a fair trial is a cop out.

Why? (Treat that as a rhetorical question if you like, I know you're unlikely to be able to string together an answer that makes any sense).

In line with what another poster has put up, I feel it acceptable that venables be sent to prison for life for the very breach he is currently accused of.

Seeing as you can't possibly know what he has been accused of, you can't possibly know whether a life sentence is even available as a sentencing option. However, you may get your wish anyway, I think there's a reasonable chance he will never get parole again for his original offence.

Just to let you know, the name you mention was not the one sent to me.

Great. And what steps have you taken to verify it's accurate? Or were you planning to act like all the Facebook morons who have been gleefully persecuting that poor bloke in Fleetwood for the last week?

[Russ]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

In line with what another poster has put up, I feel it acceptable that venables be sent to prison for life for the very breach he is currently accused of.

Glad you've progressed from wanting him to have a good kicking to wanting justice to be done.

[martyh]

Originally Posted by sniper007

In an ideal world they would both be subject to a similar treatment that they dished out in my opinion. I don't think this is barbaric or unfair. They should have thought about that when they beat a 2 year old to death. 10 year olds they may have been, but my 4 year old knows the difference between right and wrong on levels much more minor. They acted in a way they deemed acceptable. I deem it acceptable that they get bricks thrown at them and a 10kg iron bar dropped on their heads, then left to die on a railway line. Scum.

i have sat reading this post over and over for ten minutes trying to think of a response to this utter trash but i can't think of a strong enough reply that is allowed on this forum

[NoKnowledge]

Originally Posted by sniper007

In an ideal world they would both be subject to a similar treatment that they dished out in my opinion. I don't think this is barbaric or unfair. They should have thought about that when they beat a 2 year old to death. 10 year olds they may have been, but my 4 year old knows the difference between right and wrong on levels much more minor. They acted in a way they deemed acceptable. I deem it acceptable that they get bricks thrown at them and a 10kg iron bar dropped on their heads, then left to die on a railway line. Scum.

Seeing as the age difference was 8 then today VT being 27 and so two men were to do the same to them they would have to be 35 but then the two 35 year olds would have to be put in prison. No? Then we'll just have a cycle.

[Sirius]

I bet the real info will eventually turn up on wikileaks

[martyh]

should we identify them to protect the innocent people who will be accused of being them .I know JV is now in jail for the rest of his life but it wouldn't stop inmates killing a relatively innocent man

[NoKnowledge]

If you think about it, if VT were identified and some drunk seen a lookalike in the streets or a bar, he or she might think they were released and inflict their own punishment.

Mike Ashley was seen in some bar in Chapel House, no it was his lookalike and got beat up big time.

[colin25]

Good point about lookalikes

I spent a day sitting passively in the street on a protest, mistakenly thought guy sitting with me was Ghandi...I'll never get that day back

[Maggy J]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

Maggy, people are not given a new identity for shoplifting.
Him and his scumbag partner deserve to be looking over their shoulders every second of their remaining lives.
Until we have a government with balls people will continue to act in the way that they are.
I received a text only yesterday with the name and location that venables has been living under and at.
If he is found guilty of what is alleged, he should hang.

What the hell has all this got to do with my point about people doing the job they are paid for and observing the privacy and secrecy they have agreed to be bound by?

[RizzyKing]

If justice was seen and felt to be done we might not have so many lynch mob type attitudes and this case highlights that. for the record i am not in favour of any harm being done to this individual by members of the public for whatever reason and i hope that if he has commited another act that merits jail he will go back for life this time meaning life.

Had they released the details of what he did a lot of the media circus could have been avoided and a lot of anger that has cropped up could have been prevented. Enough details could have been given to stop speculation without giving away his individual identity although that horse has bolted as someone that knows it will spill for cash now.

I still think this whole episode has been more about certain people covering their backsides then any pretence at justice and we should have a thorough look at the procedures that take place determining whether someone should be released as in this case it clearly failed.

[sniper007]

Originally Posted by martyh

i have sat reading this post over and over for ten minutes trying to think of a response to this utter trash but i can't think of a strong enough reply that is allowed on this forum

That was worth posting about then. Lets all point out how a post is "utter trash" with no explanation. That will get us far on a forum.

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Originally Posted by NoKnowledge

Seeing as the age difference was 8 then today VT being 27 and so two men were to do the same to them they would have to be 35 but then the two 35 year olds would have to be put in prison. No? Then we'll just have a cycle.

Sorry I don't understand what you are trying to say. I don't find your post to make any sense reading it back? I'm not being a grammar nazi, I just plainly don't follow, sorry.