[MERGED] Madeleine McCann - Page 109

Saaf_laandon_mo · 22-07-2008, 16:06

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

For me it's a no brainer they should be charged with some form of neglect and beofre people chirp in with the tired old "havn't they gone through enough" the answer is no and they wouldn't be going through it if they hadn't neglected the child in the first place. I have said it before and will repeat if this had been a single mum or an ordinary working class family social services would have been wetting themselves to make an example of the parents.

Hear Hear.

It is truly unfortunate that they have lost a child. But realistically speaking she would probably still be here if they weren't so neglectful in their parenting duties. That's my opinion since day one and it wont ever change.

papa smurf · 22-07-2008, 16:23

to me they are guilty of child neglect /abuse , and imo they have steered this investigation the way they wanted it to go ,they have in no way convinced me of there innocence in madelines dissapearence.

foreverwar · 22-07-2008, 20:04

Strange - I thought that we had to prove that people were guilty, rather than they had to prove they were innocent?

btw, I agree they should not have the left the children unattended.

slug · 22-07-2008, 20:18

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

Strange - I thought that we had to prove that people were guilty, rather than they had to prove they were innocent?

btw, I agree they should not have the left the children unattended.

I think you will find that applies to the legal system. Unless cable forum has suddenly become a court of law and you a judge.

foreverwar · 22-07-2008, 21:09

I do not feel the need to judge, or be a judge.

**Chris** · 22-07-2008, 21:24

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Originally Posted by slug

I think you will find that applies to the legal system. Unless cable forum has suddenly become a court of law and you a judge.

I think you will find that courts operate that way because it's generally considered to be a fair and reasonable way to treat other people.

RizzyKing · 22-07-2008, 21:57

Er they lost their child as they were out having a meal how much more guilt would you like if they hadn't been neglectful they would still have their daughter it's that simple.

SMHarman · 22-07-2008, 22:05

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

Strange - I thought that we had to prove that people were guilty, rather than they had to prove they were innocent?

btw, I agree they should not have the left the children unattended.

So what is the burden of proof here. They left their children unsupervised. Well they have admitted that, as a result a child is now missing. I think the problem you run into here is who is wrong, which parent? Can you charge both parents?

foreverwar · 24-07-2008, 07:38

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Originally Posted by SMHarman

So what is the burden of proof here. They left their children unsupervised. Well they have admitted that, as a result a child is now missing. I think the problem you run into here is who is wrong, which parent? Can you charge both parents?

I agree with you regarding leaving the children unsupervised (as I stated in my previous post).

I was responding to the point that

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they have in no way convinced me of there innocence in madelines dissapearence

which I interpreted (perhaps mistakenly) that the McCanns were actively complicit in the disappearance.

zinglebarb · 24-07-2008, 07:39

Yes charge both parents equally. If 4 guys beat a man up and he dies all 4 are charged with his death they do not spend all the time finding out who actually kicked him the hardest or dealt the killing strike

RizzyKing · 24-07-2008, 10:49

Forever in fairness a hell of a lot of people will now always believe they were involved in the disappearence and unless madeline shows up alive and well (not going to happen) they will always be in some people's minds have been involved. I will be honest i don't believe their version of events although it has become quite polished now in the early stages of this affair many aspects of their recollection were to say the least dodgy.

I personally believe they know more then they are saying and i think there is definately more to it then we know but thanks to a ramshackle investigation much of what might have been evidence has been completely rendered inadmissable which i believe more then one police officer has admitted. Whatever the truth the one fact that is undeniable is that a little girl has suffered a fate she didn't deserve and may well have a lost a life she never got to live sadly thats the only fact we have.