10-08-2005, 12:09
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should ronnie biggs be freed
do you think ronnie biggs should be freed.
i think he should, he's an old man now and in poor health.
all he did was rob a mail train in the 60's and escape from the nick.
there are a lot of people walking the streets now who did a lot worse than him, murderers pedophiles etc etc.
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10-08-2005, 12:10
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Re: should ronnie biggs be freed
I think it would be an act of kindness to free him now
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10-08-2005, 12:11
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Re: should ronnie biggs be freed
Just been reading at the BBC he has MRSA, releasing him will not be a bad thing in this case.
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10-08-2005, 12:11
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Re: should ronnie biggs be freed
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Originally Posted by andy 1
do you think ronnie biggs should be freed.
i think he should, he's an old man now and in poor health.
all he did was rob a mail train in the 60's and escape from the nick.
there are a lot of people walking the streets now who did a lot worse than him, murderers pedophiles etc etc.
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Yes. but remember the train driver did die from injuries received, but yes others have been released there seems little point now. Correction, the driver suffered head injuries but could not return to work he died of leukeamia in 1970.
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Last edited by Gogogo; 10-08-2005 at 12:23.
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10-08-2005, 12:12
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Re: should ronnie biggs be freed
you would probably get community service for that now 
in all honesty about 5 yrs
so yes let him out 
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10-08-2005, 12:15
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Re: should ronnie biggs be freed
Yes he is an old man. Yes he is frail. So what.
He took part in a violent robbery. He avoided the punishment handed down at the time. Why should he be allowed to avoid it again. He, unlike the victim of the robbery, was able to enjoy his life.
I'm not saying that society should be making examples of anyone, but I do firmly believe that if sentences are passed, that is what should be served, not something completely different.
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10-08-2005, 12:16
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Re: should ronnie biggs be freed
Presumably this thread is inspired by the news that Biggs caught MRSA on a recent trip to hospital:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4137312.stm
No, he should not be released. He assisted in the beating of an innocent man (who died not long after), committed what was, at the time, the biggest robbery on British soil, then escaped jail and spent the next 30 years sticking two fingers up at British justice from the side of a swimming pool in Brazil. He only came back here when his health took a turn for the worse and his money began to run out. He is still as cynical as they day he planned the job and he should not be allowed to play the system in the way he clearly planned to when he returned to the UK.
He has spent little more than five years in jail. He would have been sentenced to plenty more than that even if he had been sentenced under today's more liberal practices. We should not be sending a message that those who evade the law for long enough can eventually be allowed to get away with their crime.
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10-08-2005, 12:17
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Re: should ronnie biggs be freed
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you would probably get community service for that now |
You'd probably get Ronnie suing the train driver for not having a hard hat on and getting compensation for not being able to return to the country these days. 
In all seriousness though he isn't a danger to anyone. He has served time (albeit less than originally sentenced) and I think he should be released.
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10-08-2005, 12:22
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Re: should ronnie biggs be freed
I've added a poll to the thread.
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10-08-2005, 12:23
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Re: should ronnie biggs be freed
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all he did was rob a mail train in the 60's and escape from the nick.
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iirc, they clubbed a guard over the head in the robbery and left him permanently injured......
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10-08-2005, 12:26
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Re: should ronnie biggs be freed
No, if they let him out, then our justice system would be made a mockery, for letting go prisoners, especially after they were trying to get him back in the country to try him.
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10-08-2005, 12:42
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Re: should ronnie biggs be freed
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Originally Posted by ikthius
No, if they let him out, then our justice system would be made a mockery, for letting go prisoners, especially after they were trying to get him back in the country to try him.
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people make a mockery of our justice system everyday,youv'e only got to watch them at the magistrates court.
sorry your worship it was the drink or the drugs,the courts let them off lightly and there out doing the same things again.
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iirc, they clubbed a guard over the head in the robbery and left him permanently injured......
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the ira killed and maimed people yet there killers are now free and walking the streets.
why should they be released yet ronnie biggs not
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10-08-2005, 12:43
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Re: should ronnie biggs be freed
I have no sympathy for a man who manipulated and used everyone in his life for his own ends and he is still doing so.
Why should he NOT work out his sentence until the end.Others don't get the same consideration.
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10-08-2005, 12:47
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Re: should ronnie biggs be freed
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Originally Posted by Chris T
Presumably this thread is inspired by the news that Biggs caught MRSA on a recent trip to hospital:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4137312.stm
No, he should not be released. He assisted in the beating of an innocent man (who died not long after), committed what was, at the time, the biggest robbery on British soil, then escaped jail and spent the next 30 years sticking two fingers up at British justice from the side of a swimming pool in Brazil. He only came back here when his health took a turn for the worse and his money began to run out. He is still as cynical as they day he planned the job and he should not be allowed to play the system in the way he clearly planned to when he returned to the UK.
He has spent little more than five years in jail. He would have been sentenced to plenty more than that even if he had been sentenced under today's more liberal practices. We should not be sending a message that those who evade the law for long enough can eventually be allowed to get away with their crime. |
Just what I say (although a lot more eloquently put)
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10-08-2005, 12:54
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Re: should ronnie biggs be freed
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Originally Posted by Chris T
Presumably this thread is inspired by the news that Biggs caught MRSA on a recent trip to hospital:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4137312.stm
No, he should not be released. He assisted in the beating of an innocent man (who died not long after), committed what was, at the time, the biggest robbery on British soil, then escaped jail and spent the next 30 years sticking two fingers up at British justice from the side of a swimming pool in Brazil. He only came back here when his health took a turn for the worse and his money began to run out. He is still as cynical as they day he planned the job and he should not be allowed to play the system in the way he clearly planned to when he returned to the UK.
He has spent little more than five years in jail. He would have been sentenced to plenty more than that even if he had been sentenced under today's more liberal practices. We should not be sending a message that those who evade the law for long enough can eventually be allowed to get away with their crime. |
just has a matter of interest chris t what irritates you more the fact that he did the great train robbery or that he sat in brazil sticking two fingers up to british justice.
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